(lively music) Sal: What are we looking at here? Steven: This is a
sculpture by Pablo Picasso. It dates to 1912, called
Guitar, made out of sheet metal that Picasso
cut and crimped and folded. Sal: This one is awesome. It's just a fascinating thing to look at. It's something that ... I mean, a guitar is never a mundane thing. That's what's fun about it. If you put a guitar on
your wall, it inspires you. I like to leave my guitar
in the corner of my room. It makes me always want
to be more creative. This takes it to another level. It takes this idea of a guitar, and it's very recognizable as a guitar. I mean, it really plays with
the geometry of the guitar. The things that you think
would pop out are popping in, and things that are
popping in are popping out. But still, fundamentally it
has the idea of its guitarness: the strings don't cross, where you ... I mean, it's definitely
not a functional guitar, but it definitely
conveys what a guitar is. So, at least aesthetically, I get this. Steven: I think Picasso is
applauding your interpretation. When you think about
sculpture, what comes to mind? What kinds of subjects
have you seen in sculpture? Sal: More classical sculpture, which is the Venus de Milo, and then you have the more geometric types of sculptures. Steven: More modern
scupltures; absolutely. Now, this is something
that was made in 1912. When it was made, I think
that that more classical kind of sculpture that
you were referring to is really what there was. They were sculptures of the human body. Occasionally, there might
be a piece of armor, there might be some
drapery that was sculpted, there might be a horse,
but sculpture was always about something that existed in nature, something that was not man-made. Nobody had made a sculpture of a guitar because we make guitars. Sal: Right. Steven: Picasso could become a luthier. He could just make a guitar. Sal: No; I fully appreciate that. I think that this is challenging
people's notion of art. As you just pointed out,
that seems counterintuitive to make a representation of something that we already make, and we
can make it very well and represent it perfectly. Here is intentionally
representing the essence of the thing without making the thing. Steven: How can he create
a visual vocabulary that represents the thing while not in any way constructing that thing? He has to be really deliberate. He has to make sure that
that finger board can't actually work, otherwise
he's making a finger board. He's not making a sculpture. Sal: No, you're exactly right. You can probably remove
several of the guitar-like cues and it would still very
clearly be a guitar. But I definitely appreciate this. I definitely, I think, get this. Steven: Think about what's
happening at this moment, his understanding of art
making his coming out of the 19th Century, when
photography had really released artists from the responsibility
of having to depict. Now, if art is moved to
the sort of second level, which is let's focus on
the language of depiction as opposed to depiction itself. Take a look at one of the things that makes it most clear
that this is a guitar. Look at the contours of
the body of the guitar. That S-curve on both sides. Do you notice how they're
not the same scale? Sal: Absolutely; yeah. Steven: Picasso does this kind of thing in a lot of drawings at
this time, late 1911-1912. Because the right side is
smaller, a lot of historians suggested that Picasso
is actually representing a guitar not flat against the wall, but actually turned slightly in space. Sal: Yeah, I definitely see that. We're looking at all angles
of the guitar at once. Steven: This scuplture
is actually coming out of the series of collages that
Picasso has been making. It's this funny thing
where you have the idea of the guitar, a three-dimensional,
real thing in the world, which then he collapses
into the realm of drawing that represent the thing in space. Then, he literally cuts those things out and reconstructs this in three dimensions. In fact, the very first
version was made out of paper, from the three-dimensional
to the two-dimensional and then back to the three-dimensional. Sal: I think it's fascinating. (lively music)