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Birth of the Gothic: Abbot Suger and the ambulatory at St. Denis

Ambulatory, Basilica of Saint Denis, Paris, 1140-44. Speakers: Dr. Beth Harris and Dr. Steven Zucker. Created by Beth Harris and Steven Zucker.

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  • duskpin ultimate style avatar for user Fred12
    what exactly is "Gothic" ?
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    • leaf green style avatar for user Travis Allen Lewis
      In this context Gothic is used to describe a style of architecture that achieved prominence in the high and late middle ages. It has no actual connection with the Visigoths or Ostrogoths- the original use of ther term Gothic was meant to be pejorative, such as one might use the term "Cretan" insultingly. Gothic archetecture is marked by pointed arches, flying buttresses, and ribbed vaultings all of which allowed for greater height and stability.
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    At , who was the 6th Century philosopher that Dr. Zucker is referring to?
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  • leafers tree style avatar for user Ben
    Does the word "Gothic" have anything to do with the modern idea of a "Goth"?
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    • purple pi purple style avatar for user Tim Gorichanaz
      Sort of, but indirectly. As a term outside of architecture, I believe "Gothic" was first used to describe literature, as in Gothic novels (for example, Dracula). These novels were so named because they often took place in Gothic (architecture) buildings. Gothic literature combined elements of horror and romance. In the 1970's, we began seeing Gothic music, which seems to me to be named after Gothic literature, given its dark themes and feelings, and from there the Gothic subculture (especially the form of dress), which was based on these Gothic musicians.

      But can we see the influence of Gothic architecture directly in the modern Goth subculture? You could make a case for it: Gothic buildings are stone—cold to the touch and very dark. Sure, they are notable for their stained glass, but really what makes the stained glass pop are the dark corners... the contrast. Perhaps there's some element of this in Goth fashion, but it's subject to discussion.
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    how does the Gothic artwork influence the world?
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      Gothic art was and is incredibly influential. "American Gothic" by Grant Wood was inspired by the Dibble House built in the Carpenter Gothic style (carpenter because the forms were translated from stone into wood for affordability) and this style was popularized in America in the mid-1800s because in that century Gothic styles became fashionable again all over the Western world. This change in taste was inspired by the Romantic movement, which wanted to revive a time before the ugliness of the Industrial Revolution. The Romantics revived quite a few different styles, but Gothic had the most staying power.
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    Does anyone know the exact date of the Abbott Suger quote about the effect of light on a dull mind? (at in the video) Thanks in advance.
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    Why was the Royal Family buried in this Church?
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    • purple pi purple style avatar for user Tim Gorichanaz
      A hallmark of medieval (and even modern!) European civilization is royal burial in churches., and we see this in all the former European kingdoms. For a listing, check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Burials_at_churches

      There are many reasons for this practice. To name a few: (a) to honor the dead by burying them in grand places and allowing the public to visit (and pray over) their graves, (b) to assert the importance of Christianity in the kingdom by burying them in a church (though these people ruled over other people in their lives, ultimately God rules over all), (c) to protect the corpses from robbery, as medieval churches doubled as strongholds, (d) as a thank-you for either contributing to or allowing the construction of the church. There are certainly others.

      If you think about it, this really parallels the common people's practice of burying their dead in graveyards outside churches. Every burial plot costs money, and the most expensive ones are inside the church. That's why, in many churches, you'll find not only royalty, but all sorts of wealthy people buried inside.
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    how can you telll it is gothic or at least what is it?
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    Why is the west façade of a cathedral usually the principal entrance?
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    • starky ultimate style avatar for user Steven Zucker
      In the case of a basilica plan, a west front allows for the altar to sit at the east end thus aligning the host, the body of Christ, with the rising sun. I do not know for certain that this was the original idea, but it is the one most often given in my experience. Its important to note that many churches do not follow this orientation.
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    Does Gothic art only apply to architecture of the time rather than paintings and or sculptors?
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    At , why did the Kings of France only control the L'Ile de France? What happened to the Carolingian Empire?
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    • leaf green style avatar for user Leo Williams
      The Carolingian Empire was a salic monarchy (a nation which respected a tradition of salic law, basically partitioning a kingdom of there was a succession split.), or had at least been one before Charlemagne took control. Additionally, the French territory which was controlled at that time extended its jurisdiction not only over France, but also over Italy and parts of Germany. In addition, you had Viking raids from the North and other attacks on the massive frontier of the kingdom. This meant maintaining centralised control over the whole "empire" was difficult, and the institutions of manorialism and serfdom began to grow, giving the landed gentry and nobility more power. This eventually lead to a long civil war, and a scenario not dissimilar to the Roman Empire, which was divided into four parts (Tetrarchy). Nevertheless, after this, regional dukes began to, in the face of ill-concieved actions by French monarchs, assert their own authority over France regardless of what the central monarch had to say, whether in Burgundy, Gascony, Flanders, or Brittany. After a few generations of this, the empire of the Franks was all but completely obliterated, and a new, nobility-approved French ruler began to rule over the petty remaining territories of the last-remaining Frankish provinces after a successive series of wars, both against outsiders such as Vikings (and Normans) and the regional nobility.
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Video transcript

DR. BETH HARRIS: Here we are at the Basilica of Saint Denis. DR. STEVEN ZUCKER: The birthplace of the Gothic. DR. BETH HARRIS: Thanks to Suger, who was the abbot in the first half of the 12th century. This church is incredibly important because it's the burial place of the royal family. since Suger himself was also a advisor to the royal family. DR. STEVEN ZUCKER: We're standing in the choir. And light is pouring in the windows. DR. BETH HARRIS: So the choir is the space behind the altar of the church. And the ambulatory is the aisle that would take one behind the altar. DR. STEVEN ZUCKER: Actually, it's taking us around behind the altar. DR. BETH HARRIS: Now, Suger completed the ambulatory and also the facade of the church. DR. STEVEN ZUCKER: And none of this was new construction. There had been a ninth-century church here. And Suger felt that it was inadequate as the burial place of the kings. At this historical moment, the kings of France only really controlled the Isle de France, that is, the area immediately around Paris. But this was a time when the king's power was expanding. And Suger really wanted to create an architectural style that would express the growing power of the monarch. Now, in the history of Western church architecture, the way that this would generally work is you would have an ambulatory that would move around the back of the altar. And that would allow pilgrims to stop at each of these small, radiating chapels, that is, these small rooms that would contain relics. DR. BETH HARRIS: In the past during the Romanesque period, these chapels would be literally separate rooms with walls around them. And Suger's idea was instead to open up the space and to allow light to flood in. And that's exactly how this looks. And it must have looked so different than anything anyone had seen before. DR. STEVEN ZUCKER: Instead of this looking like a set of walls that are pierced by windows-- and in the Romanesque, relatively small windows-- instead, he's figured out how to engineer this structure in stone. So that the walls can basically disappear and be replaced by glass-- colored glass-- that lets this brilliant, luminous color into the space. So let's talk about two things-- how he did this, and second of all, why he did this. DR. BETH HARRIS: Which one should we do first? DR. STEVEN ZUCKER: Well, let's talk about how he did it. If you look above us, there's this complex web of interlocking pointed vaulting. DR. BETH HARRIS: Pointed arches are really key here, because for one thing, you can cover spaces of different shapes and sizes. Perhaps most importantly, a pointed arch doesn't push so much out as it does it down. And because of that, the architect didn't need to build thick walls. DR. STEVEN ZUCKER: A traditional Roman arch generally has to be placed on quite heavy walls, because it really does push outward. It splays. What the pointed arch does is it tends to take the weight of the vaulting and push it more straight down, so that the weight doesn't have to be buttressed from the side. DR. BETH HARRIS: Looking up at those ribs, we have a sense of a pull toward the vertical. And all of these ribs in this vaulting rests on these thin columns. So there's a real sense of elegance and openness to this space. DR. STEVEN ZUCKER: And it's so radically different from the Romanesque that came before, which felt so solid and where your eye was always drawn around that rounded arch back down. And you felt the sense of gravity. You felt a sort of rootedness with the Romanesque. And it is so different here. You have to remember the church itself, any consecrated church, is an expression of the holy Jerusalem. It is Heaven on Earth. And so the idea is how can one transport us to a more heavenly place, to a more spiritual place. Abbot Suger believed that light could do this. DR. BETH HARRIS: Suger thought he was reading the writing of Saint Denis, of the patron saint of this church. DR. STEVEN ZUCKER: Instead, he was reading a philosopher from the sixth century. But the important part is he took this notion of the divinity of light from that writing and made that practical and applicable within an architectural setting. DR. BETH HARRIS: Right. That writing that he thought was by Saint Denis talked about how light was connected to the divine. So what Suger wanted was to open up those walls and allow in the light that would allow a type of thinking on the part of the visitors where they would move from the contemplation of the light to God. DR. STEVEN ZUCKER: This was a radical and new notion and actually flew in the face of other theological theories of the time. And if you think about the ideas that are being established by Saint Bernard of Clairvaux, who's saying, we have to get rid of all the decorative. We have to get rid of everything that will distract us. Suger is moving in the other direction and saying, no, in fact. We can transport people. DR. BETH HARRIS: That the visual is not a distraction but a way of transporting us to the divine. DR. STEVEN ZUCKER: I have to say that I think Suger was incredibly successful. This is startlingly beautiful. And I feel transported.