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Lesson 3: Brass- French Horn: Interview and demonstration with principal John Cerminaro
- Trumpet: Interview and demonstration with principal David Bilger
- Trombone: Interview and demonstration with principal Joseph Alessi
- Bass Trombone: Interview and demonstration with Denson Paul Pollard
- Tuba: Interview and demonstration with Chris Olka
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Tuba: Interview and demonstration with Chris Olka
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- I am familiar with all four of these tubas, but does anyone know the brass instrument that wraps around the upper body? I can always see in a marching band but I cannot give it a name.(13 votes)
- That would be the sousaphone, named after John Philip Sousa. It's the marching version of a tuba.(17 votes)
- What is the name of the piece they end with?(7 votes)
- It is Gustav Mahler 2nd symphony movement 4.(6 votes)
- I would imagine that it takes an immense amount of lung power to get a sound out of a tuba...is this true? Or is that just my false impression based on the size of a tuba?
I am asking based on a relative scale to other brass instruments. Does it take a larger person as well to make this sound if in fact my assumption is correct?(7 votes)- It does need more air because of the tubing. Flute is the only instruments that uses more air or around. It doesn't necessarily needs a big person, sometimes the smallest person plays the tuba.(6 votes)
- Both woodwinds and brass instruments require breathing to make their respective sounds. Is the only difference the material from which they were originally made (brass vs. wood) and the obvious difference in shapes or is there something more subtle that I'm missing?(5 votes)
- You're right that the material is the biggest defining difference. There's also a difference in the way the breath is applied. Woodwinds usually have a reed (single, like a clarinet or saxophone, or double, like an oboe or bassoon) that vibrates to help create the sound. Brass instruments have a mouthpiece that you blow into. In general, brass requires stronger airflow--part of the reason I played clarinet--and changes in embouchure (mouth position) change the notes along with different finger positions, while woodwinds can be played with weaker lungs and have more finger positions to change notes.(7 votes)
- Atwhat it that silvar piece in the back round? It doesn't look like a tuba> 1:36(4 votes)
- It looks like a valve trombone.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Types_of_trombone#Valve_trombone(4 votes)
- so the tuba players are the cheerleaders of the orchestra?(2 votes)
- No, most of the time we are considered the live metronome.(3 votes)
- I playb the clarinet and violin and i was wondering does the trumpet have the same octive as the clarinet(3 votes)
- Do you mean range? Clarinets can go a bit higher than Trumpets, but overall their range is approximately the same. An octave is an interval between pitches and it's the same regardless of what's producing the pitches.(3 votes)
- Wouldn't the technical name for the "tenor tuba" be "Euphonium"?(3 votes)
- Yes, they are the same thing and the name are interchangeable. A tenor tuba often refers to a horn with rotary valves instead of piston valves, but the bell, bore and pitch of the horns are the same. But Mr. Olka refers to his piston valve horn as a tenor tuba, so the names really are interchangeable.(3 votes)
- Why is he pulling the valve looking thing up and down and what does it do?(3 votes)
- Most tubas have four valves, which allows you to replace most valve combinations that use third valve with 4 (4=replacement for 1+3, so you can do 24 instead of 123). However, this doesn't work with the 23 valve combination, so tubists may have to pull out the third valve when using that valve combination, or if they don't have a fourth valve. This can be controlled to an extent by the mouth; the point at which a musician decides to manipulate tuning slides instead of altering the pitch solely with their mouth ("embouchure") is up to each musician, and may change based on how easily the slides move.(2 votes)
- Atin the video, Chris says he plays a six quarter double C contrabass tuba, what does all that mean? 8:25(2 votes)
- There are four common sizes that manufactures came up with as a guideline for their products which are 3/4, 4/4, 5/4, and 6/4 ( six-quarter ). The double C, or CC is a reference to its pitch, which in this case with his tuba, is typically the lowest ranged tubas you can get and is the professional standard for American Orchestration. Contrabass is a term for any instrument with a contrabass form, simply meaning it is an instrument which is an octave lower than the norm, and there are many instruments with this rarer form that you can look for by researching "contrabass instruments".(3 votes)
Video transcript
("Symphony No. 5" by Dmitryi Shostakovich) - This is my six-quarter contrabass tuba. This is one that's pitched in double C. And this is the instrument that I play, I'd say, 90% of the time in the orchestra. I like it because it's a large instrument, and because it's so large,
it actually is more efficient at providing plenty of bass
sound to the orchestra. It reinforces the bass section
and all the lower instruments much more readily than a
smaller instrument would, and I have to work less hard to do it. The sound's not as clear as
some of the smaller instruments, again, it's more
omnidirectional, very present, but kind of like a big,
velvet fog, so to speak, so, generally this is the
low left hand of the piano, if you envision the orchestra
set out like a piano, this is low left hand. It's more suited for middle
and low-register playing. So, I'll just play a
couple of things on this. (tuba booming) So this is the instrument I use most of the time in the orchestra. Then we've got the bass tuba. Because it's pitched in
F, a fourth above the C, it's more suited to
higher solo repertoire, and higher orchestral repertoire. So, Berlioz, Ravel, some of the lighter, brighter orchestrations,
for example, Berlioz, The Hungarian March. (tuba booming) Stuff like this, it's
got a lighter, leaner, clearer, more vocal sound. It's easier for technical passages. (tuba booming) So it can play all the same
notes that you can play on a contrabass tuba, but
it's certainly easier to play on the upper register on it,
and for smaller, lighter, leaner orchestrations, it's
less encompassing of a sound. It's clearer, more focused, and so you can have it be a little pointier, and tuck it into a smaller orchestra
a little more handily. Then we've got the tenor tuba, and these, you see 'em mostly in British brass bands, but occasionally there are some repertoire in the orchestral rep that
calls for a tenor tuba, and it would be one of these instruments, and it's pitched an octave
above its bigger brother here. This one happens to be pitched in B flat, and you'll hear it's a much
smaller, clearer, leaner sound. (tuba booming) Then we've got the cimbasso,
and this is pitched in F, in the same key as the
bass tuba here behind me, which is also in F,
and you'll hear this is a much leaner sound than
either of the tubas, but not as small as the tenor tuba. It's kind of a hybrid,
and it definitely has more of a trombone-like sound,
as a result of the fact that it's forward
facing, it's directional, and smaller bore. And again, this is used for Italian opera. (cimbasso booming) ("Daphnis and Chloe - Suite
No. 2" by Maurice Ravel) Basically, all the mouthpiece does, is it focuses, it acts as a cup to focus your buzzing lips into the small shank here,
which then is plugged in to the instrument that
you're gonna put it in, so, on the tuba here,
you've got your mouthpiece, and you buzz into it, and then you plug it into the leadpipe, which
then goes into the valves and the sound comes out of the bell. All you're really doing when
you play a brass instrument is amplifying your buzzing lips, and you do that with the mouthpiece, so, let me get a pitch here, if you want to buzz a C, for instance, or play a C on tuba, if you've
got that pitch in your ear, and you can sing it, ♪ Do, do ♪ if you sing there, whatever, you hear the pitch in your
head, and you buzz your lips. (lips buzzing) Now, if I do that looking at
the mouthpiece, (lips buzzing) it doesn't really work very effectively. So now we've got this
mouthpiece which has a cup, or a cup-shaped bowl, with a leadpipe, (mouthpiece buzzing) Now we've got something to work with. We've got a focused buzz, and that's going to be
amplified into the tuba. (tuba buzzing) So while there's a lot of
money spent in research and development for the
various brass instruments, they're basically glorified,
as I like to call it, megaphones that, like a
cheerleader would use, and all they do is amplify a raspberry. (lips buzzing) (tuba booming) ("Adieu!" by Bernard Rands) If you look, every instrument
in the orchestra just about, has some brethren, for lack
of a better way to put it. There's a ream of fiddles,
there's a bunch of violas, you have a section of basses. Even in the woodwinds section,
you've got a couple of oboes, you have a couple of bassoons,
a couple of clarinets, a couple of flutes, as
many as three or four. Trumpets, you have usually two at least, sometimes three, four, or more. French horns, you have four or
five, counting an assistant, and trombones you have three, but the tuba you only have
one, generally speaking, and there's some exceptions,
but rarely do you see more than one tuba in the orchestra. Because your job is to
provide the foundation of the orchestra, the bass
role in the wind section, and you've got all these
other instruments playing with no help from any
other section of tubas, tend to kind of go towards
a larger instrument, so that's why I play a six-quarter
double C contrabass tuba. (orchestra music) I kind of have a
non-traditional background as far as how I came to play the tuba. I should say the tuba was thrust upon me. It wasn't something that
I arrived at, at my own. Previous to me playing the tuba, I was in middle school
and late grade school, I was a saxophone player, and a very happy and
contented saxophone player. I played an instrument
that everybody liked, and everybody knew, and I loved it. I felt like I was pretty good on it. But when I got into the
ninth grade in high school, my band director said,
"Son, you're the biggest guy "in the band, we don't have any tubas, "and we've got plenty
of saxophone players. "If you want to be in the band,
you have to play the tuba. "You don't really have an option. "You must play the tuba if
you want to be in the band." Well, I mean, I really
liked the saxophone, but I liked being in the band more than just playing the
saxophone, so I thought, well, if this is my only option,
I guess I'll play the tuba, and basically what he did,
was he gave me a tuba, and he gave me a method book, and a tired, old, rusty
mouthpiece, and basically said, okay, go into a practice room, and band camp is for the next two weeks. Don't come out until
you can play that thing. And so every day for four
hours a day during band camp, when everybody else was in the band room rehearsing all the great classics, Rockin' Robin, Louis Louis, Wipeout, all these songs that I really desperately wanted to participate in, instead I was learning how
to push the buttons down, and how to buzz my lips, and reading this Rubank Method for elementary tuba, and I figured out enough
that I could go out and play the bass line to
Louis Louis and Wipeout and Rockin' Robin, and
earn my way into the band. So that was my freshman
year in high school, and the rest, as they say, is history. I played the tuba for my
entire high school career. My senior year in high
school, I also started working as a musician at Walt
Disney World in Orlando as a atmosphere musician playing tuba in the various bands. 1990, I graduated from high school, started my undergraduate
degree and took six years of night courses, and some day
courses, while also working at full-time at Walt Disney World as a musician there,
starting every morning at eight o'clock when the park opened up, started playing a show,
20 to 30 minute sets every hour, hour and a
half, seven shows a day, sometimes two, three parades, depended. And I was playing mostly jazz,
marching band, popular music, stuff like this at Walt
Disney, as you might imagine. Wasn't much of an orchestral guy. Had real no aspirations to
be an orchestral tuba player, but I heard this recording of the New York Philharmonic Orchestra, conducted by Leonard Bernstein, of Mahler's Second Symphony, and when that was
recorded in the late '80s, it was with what I call the
dream team brass section of all time, in an orchestra
in the United States, which was my teacher and a number of these trombone players in the
New York Philharmonic, and the fabulous trumpets and horns. I mean, every person in that brass section was just world-class. I heard it and I was stunned. I was smitten by how beautiful
this Mahler symphony was, which was the first one I had ever heard, and then the quality of playing and artistry in this recording. Now, I mention that because that had a profound impact on me. ("Symphony No. 2" by Gustav Mahler) I heard that recording, and I
decided right then and there I wanted to be an orchestral musician, and I auditioned at the Julliard School for my master's degree,
so that I could study with these gentlemen, and in fact, I had done a summer festival previously, that previous summer, with
the principal brass players of the New York Philharmonic Orchestra, and the principal trombone player, this guy, Joe Alessi, he
set me down, and he said, "Listen, you need to quit your job, "and you need to come and
study with us at Julliard, "and you'll get a job in an orchestra." Now I'm thinking, okay,
he says this to everybody, he must, he's just trying to recruit. He said, "Listen, I don't
say this to everybody. "In fact, I don't say this to anybody, "because I know how competitive it is "to get an orchestra job. "I'm telling you, if you
come and study with us, "you've got what it takes. "You will win a job in an orchestra." So I took the leap of faith. I auditioned at Julliard
and got a scholarship, and went to Julliard School
for my master's degree, finished that in 1998, started
working on my doctorate at Rutger's University for one year, and then the position opened
up here in Seattle Symphony, and auditioned for that job subsequently, and won the job, and I've
been here ever since 1999. ("Symphony No. 2" by Gustav Mahler) The very first orchestra concert I played in the Julliard Orchestra, the
conductor was Jerry Schwartz. My very first concert I ever
played at the Julliard School, Jerry's the music director. Three years later, I'm
principal tuba in his orchestra. Now we're looking at Jerry
putting together this orchestra in New York, this all-star orchestra, and he's asked me to be the tuba player. I mean, what a tremendous thrill, but on top of that, one of
the things that he programs is the first movement of
Mahler's Second Symphony, and no less than four of
the brass players that were on that famous recording that
was on Deutsche Grammophon, that was recorded with Bernstein and the New York Philharmonic, no less than four of those brass players that were on that recording
were in this orchestra, and I got to play with them. Two of 'em were in the trombone section of that famous recording, Joe Alessi, who was principal on the Mahler, and David Finlayson, who
was playing third trombone on that recording, and
in the recording we did last week, as well as
two of the horn players from the French horn section
during that recording back in the '80s were also
in this all-star orchestra, so, for me it was a really big moment. Here, I'm getting to play
a piece that was pivotal in my decision to be
an orchestral musician and a brass player, and I got to revisit this repertoire with a conductor I feel
very strongly about, have a great relationship with, with my teachers that made
this recording possible. ("Symphony No. 2" by Gustav Mahler)