(piano music) Man: We're in Santa Cecilia
in Rome looking at the ruins of an extraordinary fresco by Cavallini from the late thirteenth century. Woman: We're above the
entrance to the church and we're looking directly at a fresco that in the late thirteenth century people would have looked up at and it's a scene of the last judgment. Man: Right so this would
have been on the wall opposite the altar and this
would have been the last thing you saw as you
were leaving the church. It's a monumental fresco. You see Christ in the
center in a mandorla, that is a kind of divine
emanation or halo that surrounds his entire body. He sits here as judge over
the souls that have lived. Woman: And he exhibits for us very clearly the wounds of the crucifixion. We can see holes from
the nails in his feet and his hands, and the wound in his side that is bleeding. A reminder of Christ's suffering. His return now is judge of mankind. Man: He is framed by angels on either side and beyond that we can see the apostles, six on each side. Between the apostles and
Christ there were two other figures. You have Mary on Christ's right and you have John the
Baptist on Christ's left. Woman: And we're so clearly at just before the time of Jato in
the way these prefigure what Jato will do in the very early years of the fourteenth century. Man: Right. This is
known as Roman realism. He's clearly borrowing from the Byzantine but there is a kind of unprecedented interest in creating a sense of naturalism as figures of our world. Woman: That can be seen in how heavily the figures are all modeled. There is not thin elongated
forms created by line, but really monumental forms created
by the use of light and dark. Man: You can see that
use of light and dark very consistently in
the furniture as well, and the light makes it very believable. The line is drawn so that
there is a precocious attempt at a kind of perspective. Not true linear perspective of course, but something that is very
much trying to explain how these angles function in space as one looks up from below. Woman: That's right, especially
evident in the seats that the apostles sit in. They angle
inward toward the center. So it's as though they
really are thinking about us as the viewer in the center
looking up at Christ. Man: There is a kind
of sensitivity in terms of rhythm and especially
color in this painting that is so beautiful. Look at the apostles. You have alternations of
violet blues, red blues, grey blues, green against
a warmer kind of grey moving across so that
there is never a repeat of the color, just beautiful. Woman: And we get a sense of a three-dimensional body
underneath that drapery. If you look at the apostles, we can see the drapery
pulling around their bellies, around their shoulders, in
the folds around their arms. Giving us a sense of monumental figures that really haven't been
seen since ancient Rome. Man: It's interesting
to think about this move from the spiritual
rendering that is a kind of symbolized body to
one that is dimensional, one that takes up space, and this idea that there is a proximity between the way in which these figures are rendered and the
bodies that we inhabit. Woman: And the kind of human emotions that we feel. If you look at the figure
of Saint John the Baptist with his hands clasped in prayer, the way that he moves
his eyebrows together and there are wrinkles in his forehead and he looks toward Christ. There is a real sense of individuality to these figures and a
sense of human emotion as they look toward Christ. Man: But these are
still clearly coming out of the Byzantine tradition. If you look at the face of Christ we might be looking at a mosaic from Ravenna from Constantinople. Woman: That's right. This moment at the end of the 1200s, the beginnings of the
1300s when we have this imminent naturalism. Man: Of course Catallini
does not know that is coming. That's our hindsight. Nevertheless, we can see
this kind of painting along with the sculptures
of Pisano or perhaps the work of Cimabue as
we're beginning to move into what will eventually
become the Renaissance. (piano music)