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Lesson 12: Old school equations with Sal# More percent problems

Slightly harder percent problems. Created by Sal Khan.

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- Alright now I'm totallly confused. How is 125 multiplied by 0.75 = 94.75

I tried it over and over again but I got a different answer. Am I doing my multiplication wrong???

Someone please answer, I need to know !!!(6 votes)- He made a little mistake. 125 x 0.75 = 93.75(30 votes)

- How do you solve this problem? This type wasn't in the video:

Gabriela has 67 dollars in the bank today. Yesterday, she had 163 dollars in the bank. By what percentage did Gabriela's bank account decrease over the past day? (Round your answer to the nearest hundredth of a percent.)(9 votes)- If you subtract 67 from 163 you get 96 which is the amount it decreased by. So 163 times what percentage equals 96?

163(x) = 96

is a good equation to use. From there you get

x = 96/163

which is .58895 or 58.90% when written as a percentage rounded to the nearest hundredth of a percent.(19 votes)

- For the first problem, why is the answer not $62.50? Where I have $50 but it is worth 25% more for every dollar spent - 50+(50*0.25)=62.50? I know this is wrong - I just don't understand why it is wrong...(4 votes)
- Hi Matt! You started by reformulating the situation as : "My dollars are worth 25% more" thinking that it is equivalent... It is not. Of course you thought that 25% of 50 dollars is the same as 50 times 25% of 1 dollar, but 25% of 50 dollars is not the same as 25% of, say, 62,50 nor 66.67...

Start instead by thinking "There's this value That I'll call X, which minus 25% of itself, equals 50." Then "solve" for X. Hope this helps! :)(6 votes)

- If you only have $50 to spend and the sale is allows you to spend a max of 66 and 2/3 or $66.67. You can't round up, you must round down to stay inside the $50 budget to $66.65. Unless however they have a penny tray to cover the extra cent.(2 votes)
- I agree with your reasoning. My only point is that if you round 66.666 (repeating decimal) down, you get $66.66. Which at 25% off would be equal to $49.995, a number, even if rounded up, is still less then (or equal to) $50.(3 votes)

- so at7:25, sal said that when something shrinks by 25%, it is now 75% of the original, does that apply to any other similar problem,? like in 2,576 decreased by , say, 10%? that's just 90% of the original 2,576, right? which would be 257.6?(3 votes)
- Almost, you have one little error. If you have 2,576, then 10% is the 257.6. 90% would be 2,318.4

Otherwise, you have the right idea.(2 votes)

- what grade is this ulimited by i mean like what grade level is this best for(1 vote)
- Well, it's not necessarily meant for any grade level. It's meant for people who have a good understanding of arithmetic and pre-algebra.

But I'll be direct and say that in the U.S. it's typically taught in 6-8th grade, but you can learn it no matter what grade your in.(3 votes)

- i have 4,396,998. and i got 85,000,000 more how much do i have now?(1 vote)
- Hi everybody,

I need your help to figure out how t o solve operations like this...your help is appreciated guys...

In each of the following examples there are two unknowns. One of the unknowns will be defined as “x”. Use your knowledge of key words/phrases to describe the other unknown in terms of “x”. The underlined portion of each sentence represents the translation you must make. The words in bold letters will be replace by “x”.

A) the first of two angles is equal to Twice the second angle less five.

Second angle: x, First Angle:

B) The first price is the sum of the original price and 7% of the original price

Original price: x, Final price:

C) The length is 7 more than the product of the width and 4.

Width: x, length:

d) a smaller number is the same as 3 less than the quotient of a larger number and 8.

Larger number: x, smaller number:(1 vote)- Redberly,

I can show you how to solve a similar problem.

E) The length is 12 less than the product of the width and 9.

Width: x, length:

You want to convert the words to mathematical symbols.

First replace the word "width" with your x as instructed

E) The length is 12 less than the product of the x and 9.

Let's use L for the other unknown so put L in for "length"

E) The L is 12 less than the product of the x and 9.

The word "is" means equals so put "=" in for "is"

E) The L = 12 less than the product of the x and 9.

"The product of x and 9" means "x times 9"

E) The L = 12 less than x * 9

"12 less than" means subtract 12

E) The L = x * 9 - 12

So your equations is

E) L = x * 9 - 12

Now read the instructions again. You need to "describe the other unknown in terms of x" so you need to solve for L

And L is already by itself on the left side of the equation, so it is solved for L.

Your answer in may example is

L= 9x-12

or

length = 9x-12

That should help you do the very similar part C of your problem. And it should help you understand what you are trying to do with part A B and D.

I hope that is of help to you.(2 votes)

- For the 25% off problem; shouldn't you round down rather than up? Since rounding up would put you slightly over the 50 dollars.(1 vote)
- I agree, but rounding up means 75% more of one half cent at most which is 0.375 cent. The amount is neglectable and the store would have to round down.

66.67 * 75% = 50.0025 which will round down to 50.00

But he forgot to include sale taxes :p(2 votes)

**Answered***Thanks to Kim Seidel For Answering This Question First*

At about4:26, Sal said that if he were to round up, he would get $66.67. However, .75*66.67 gives 50.0025, which is slightly higher than $50, the max he can pay. So isn't it incorrect to say that you can go to $66.67? Shouldn't it be $66.66?

Thank you for your time, in advance.(1 vote)- His answer is actually ok. The reason is that our monetary system only carries two decimal places. He can't physically pay: $50.0025. The last 2 decimal places have no meaning in money. Instead, we always round these type of calculations to the hundredths place (the 2nd zero). Thus, $50.0025 rounds on hundredths to $50,00.

Hope this help.(2 votes)

## Video transcript

Let's say I go to a store and
I have $50 in my pocket. $50 in my wallet. And at the store that day
they say it is a 25% off marked price sale. So 25% off marked price means
that if the marked price is $100 the price I'm going
to pay is going to be 25% less than $100. So my question to you is if I
have $50, what is the highest marked price I can afford? Because I need to know that
before I go finding something that I might like. So let's do a little
bit of algebra. So let x be the highest marked
price that I can afford. So if the sale is 25% off of x,
we could say that the new price, the sale price will be x
minus 25% of x is equal to the sale price. And I'm assuming that I'm in
a state without sales tax. Whatever the sale price is, is
what I have to pay in cash. So x minus 25% x is equal
to the sale price. The discount is going
to be 25% of x. But we know that this is the
same thing as x minus 0.25x. And we know that that's the
same thing as-- well, because we know this is 1x, x is
the same thing is 1x. 1x minus 0.25x. Well, that means that 0.75x is
equal to the sale price, right? All I did is I rewrote x minus
25% of x as 1x minus 0.25x. And that's the same
thing as 0.75x. Because 1 minus 0.25 is 0.75. So 0.75x is going to
be the sale price. Well, what's the sale
price that I can afford? Well, the sale price
I can afford is $50. So 0.75x is going to equal $50. If x is any larger number than
the number I'm solving for, then the sale price is going
to be more than $50 and I won't be able to afford it. So that's how we set the--
the highest I can pay is $50 and that's the sale price. So going back to how we did
these problems before. We just divide both
sides by 0.75. And we say that the highest
marked price that I can afford is $50 divided by 0.75. And let's figure
out what that is. 0.75 goes into 50-- let's
add some 0's in the back. If I take this decimal
2 to the right. Take this decimal, move it 2 to
the right, goes right there. So 0.75 goes into 50 the
same number of times that 75 goes into 5,000. So let's do this. 75 goes into 50 zero times. 75 goes into 500-- so let
me think about that. I think it goes
into it six times. Because seven times is
going to be too much. So it goes into it six times. 6 times 5 is 30. 6 times 7 is 42. Plus 3 is 45. So the remainder is 50. I see a pattern. Bring down the 0. Well, same thing again. 75 goes into 500 six times. 6 times 75 is going
to be 450 again. We're going to keep having
that same pattern over and over and over again. It's actually 66.666-- I hope
you don't think I'm an evil person because of this number
that happened to show up. But anyway, so the highest sale
price that I can afford or the highest marked price I can
afford is $66 dollars. And if I were to around up,
and $0.67 if I were to round to the nearest penny. If I were to write this kind of
as a repeating decimal, I could write this as 66.66 repeating. Or I also know that 0.6666
going on forever is the same thing as 2/3. So it's 66 and 2/3. But since we're working with
money and we're working with dollars, we should just
round to the nearest penny. So the highest marked price
that I can afford is $66.67. So if I go and I see a
nice pair of shoes for $55, I can afford it. If I see a nice tie for $70,
I can't afford it with the $50 in my pocket. So hopefully not only will this
teach you a little bit of math, but it'll help you do a
little bit of shopping. So let me ask you
another problem, a very interesting problem. Let's say I start with an
arbitrary-- let's put a fixed number on it. Let's say I start with $100. And after one year
it grows by 25%. And then the next year,
let's call that year two, it shrinks by 25%. So this could have happened
in the stock market. The first year I have a
good year, my portfolio grows by 25%. The second year I have a
bad year and my portfolio shrinks by 25%. So my question is how much
money do I have at the end of the two years? Well a lot of people might
say, oh, this is easy, Sal. If I grow by 25% and then I
shrink by 25% I'll end up with the same amount of money. But I'll show you it's actually
not that simple because the 25% in either case or in both cases
is actually a different amount of money. So let's figure this out. If I start with $100 and I grow
it by 25%-- 25% of $100 is $25. So I grew it by $25. So I go to $125. So after one year of growing
by 25% I end up with $125. And now this $125 is
going to shrink by 25$. So if something shrinks by 25%,
that means it's just going to be 0.75 or 75% of what
it was before, right? 1 minus 25%. 0.75 times $125. So let's work that out here. $125 times 0.75. And just in case you're
confused, I don't want to repeat it too much, but if
something shrinks by 25% it is now 75% of its original value. So if $125 shrinks by 25% it's
now 75% of $125 or 0.75. Let's do the math. 5 times 5 is 25. 2 times 5 is 10 plus 2 is 12. 1 times 5-- 7. 7 times 5 is 35. 7 times 2 is 14. Plus 3 is 17. Sorry. 7 times 1 is 7. Plus 1 is 8. So it's 5, 7, and then
this is 7 actually. 14. 9. 94.75, right? Two decimal points. 94.75. So it's interesting. If I start with $100 and it
grows by 25%, and then it shrinks by 25% I end up with
less than I started with. And I want you to think
about why that happens. Because 25% on $100 is the
amount that I'm gaining. That's a smaller number than
the amount that I'm losing. I'm losing 25% on $125. That's pretty interesting,
don't you think? That's actually very
interesting when a lot of people compare-- well, actually
I won't go into stock returns and things. But I think that should be a
pretty interesting thing. You should try that out
with other examples. Another interesting thing is
for any percentage gain, you should think about how much you
would have to lose-- what percentage you would
have to lose to end up where you started. That's another
interesting project. Maybe I'll do that in a
future presentation. Anyway, I think you're now
ready to do some of those percent madness problems. Hope you have fun. Bye.