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### Course: 8th grade > Unit 3

Lesson 12: Recognizing functions- Testing if a relationship is a function
- Relations and functions
- Recognizing functions from graph
- Checking if a table represents a function
- Recognize functions from tables
- Recognizing functions from table
- Checking if an equation represents a function
- Does a vertical line represent a function?
- Recognize functions from graphs
- Recognizing functions from verbal description
- Recognizing functions from verbal description word problem

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# Recognizing functions from verbal description word problem

Checking whether a description of the price of an order can be represented as a function of the shipping cost. Created by Sal Khan.

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- Can the
**shipping cost**be represented as**a function of**the**dollar amount of the order**?(33 votes)- Yes, because when you input the dollar amount of the order you will get one price for shipping. So we would see that when x<20 then f(x) =4 and when x≥20 then f(x) = 7(42 votes)

- Is it just me or does this make no sense :D(13 votes)
- Amount(shipping cost) is NOT a function. shipping cost (amount) IS a function because for any given amount there is only one possible output(13 votes)
- Shouldn't the input be the shipping order? Why is it the shipping cost?(8 votes)
- because the question is asking "Can the dollar amount of the order be represented as a function of shipping cost?" The word
**represented**means the opposite! so that's why shipping cost is the input! good question Varin Nair!(6 votes)

- Am i right in saying that the shipping cost can be represented as a function of the amount of the order?(5 votes)
- No, because depending on if the amount of the order is above or below $20 you could have a $4 or $7 shipping fee. There is more than one possible outcome, so this is not a function either.(0 votes)

- is it possible to represent the amount of order as an input?(3 votes)
- @melodi🏳️🌈

Great Question! In simple terms, the input is what goes into the function and the output is what comes out of the function. Input goes in and output comes out. In the function y = x + 5 , the x is the input variable and the y is the output variable. After reading this, I think you'd be able to figure it out. If not, you can watch previous videos from Sal, or go on Youtube.com or IXL.com to help you out.

Hope this helps.(4 votes)

- hello I need help learning math(2 votes)
- There are a lot of KA users that reply to posted questions. So, to get help, post a specific question about the video about what you don't understand. You will most likely get a response.(4 votes)

- Well if

Shipping cost(y) is output and

amount of order(x) is input, then

y=4 when x<20, and

y=7 when x>20.

This means that the shipping cost is the function for the amount of dollar right?

Cos various inputs can have one output but one input can't have various outputs in functions. Right?(2 votes) - it wont let me go on to my next lesson even tho i already did this one twice :((1 vote)
- Sounds like you need technical support -- Use the "Help Center" link that is at the bottom of all KA screens.(2 votes)

- Why is the shipping cost higher if you pay more. It seems like it should be the other way around, right?(1 vote)
- Why do you think that it would be less expensive to ship more stuff? The package would be bigger and heavier which would cost more to ship depending on what is being shipped.

On the other hand, many companies will give you free shipping once you have reached x amount of dollars (often over 100 dollars) which encourages you to buy more stuff. Also, scales do go down on many scales (4 dollars less than 20, 7 dollars between 20 and 40 which is a dollar cheaper than 2 20 dollar buys, then maybe 9 dollars for 40 to 60 dollars, and free shipping over 60 dollars.

Seldom do companies charge 4 dollars for less than 20 then only 3 dollars for over 20 dollars.(2 votes)

## Video transcript

Jada is ordering Mother's
Day gifts online. The shipping costs are based on
the dollar amount of the order. For orders less than
$20, shipping costs $4. For orders $20 or
more, shipping is $7. Can the dollar
amount of the order be represented as a
function of shipping costs? So they're saying,
can the dollar amount of the order-- so can
the amount of order be represented as a
function of shipping-- let me do that in
that blue color costs. So if we have the shipping
costs as an input, will that map to exactly--
for a given input, will we get exactly one output
for the amount of order? In order for this to be
represented as a function, we have to input a shipping
cost, a shipping cost where this relationship
is defined. We need to input
a shipping cost, put it into our relationship,
and get exactly one dollar amount of the order in order
for this to be a function. If we get multiple dollar
amounts of the order, then the relationship, well,
it's still a relationship, but it's not going
to be a function. So let's think about it. What are the
possible inputs here? Well, there's only two
possible shipping costs. Shipping costs are
either going to be $4, or they're going to be $7. So let's think
about what happens when we input $4 in
as a shipping cost. So if we input $4
into our relationship, so we input $4 into our
little potential function box, so $4 into it,
what is the output? What is going to be the
amount of the order? Well, if the shipping cost is
$4, the amount of the order just has to be
anything less than $20. So it could have been $1. It could have been $1.50. It could've been $7. It literally can take
on any value up to $20. So it could even be $19.99. We could do a similar
thing if we input 7 into this relationship. If 7 was-- and I could put
literally an infinite number of numbers. It could be a million dollars. So if I input 7 into
this relationship that we're trying to test
whether it's a function, if 7 is the shipping costs,
then the order we just know is over $20, $20 or more. So it could be $20. It could be $800. It could be $1 million. There's actually an
infinite number of values that it could take
on right over here. So because for a
valid shipping cost, for each of these
valid shipping costs, I can get many, many,
many potential outputs, I don't know which output it
necessarily will output to. If someone tells you
the shipping costs and you don't necessarily
know what the order size was, this is not a function. You cannot represent the
amount of order as a function of the shipping cost. So, no.