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## 8th grade

### Course: 8th grade > Unit 1

Lesson 3: Irrational numbers# Classifying numbers

CCSS.Math:

Learn how to classify numbers as whole numbers, integers, rational numbers, and irrational numbers.

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- can someone give me a summary of natural numbers, whole numbers, integers, rational numbers ad irrational number please? i'm still kinda confused because i'm not sure about the differences between them(26 votes)
**Natural numbers**:

all the whole numbers except 0**Whole numbers**:

all of the counting numbers (1, 2, 3, etc.) plus 0**Integers**:

(*can be positive or negative*)

all of the whole numbers (1, 2, 3, etc.) plus all of their opposites (-1, -2, -3, etc.) and also 0**Rational numbers**:

any number that can be expressed as a fraction of two integers (like 92, -56/3, √25, or any other number with a repeating or terminating decimal)**Irrational numbers**:

all the numbers that*can't*be expressed as a fraction of two integers (like π, √7, or any other number with a*non*-repeating &*non*-terminating decimal)

Hope this helps!(104 votes)

- Why is 0 considered rational if 0/0 is undefined? i guess it can be integer because its sign neutral. I would assume its just a whole number and an integer.(13 votes)
- The fact that 0 can be written as 0/1 is enough to show that 0 is rational.(35 votes)

- wait, aren't whole numbers literally the same thing as integers? and inside integers you have natural numbers, so it'd be, reals => rational and irrational, within rational => integers => natural numbers and then outside reals, complex.

how are whole numbers in any way different from integers? or natural, for that matter? or is it just a different name? but N is used for them, so it should be "natural", still.(5 votes)- natural numbers contains just the positive numbers.

whole numbers are different as they contain zero in addition.

Integers are also different they contain negative numbers ,positive numbers and 0.(5 votes)

- What about natural numbers, and real numbers? What are those?(3 votes)
- Natural numbers are just positive integers (1,2,3,4,5,6,7 etc)

Real numbers are every single type of number (fractions, decimals, irrational numbers, basically anything) Best of Luck!!(2 votes)

- Why arn't negatives considered Whole numbers if they are numbers(2 votes)
- Just because something is a number doesn’t mean that it has to be a whole number. Fractions, decimals, and negatives are all numbers, but they are not whole numbers. A whole number is required to be 0 or greater and without fractional or decimal part.

Numbers without fractional or decimal part are called integers, but negative integers are not considered whole numbers.

Have a blessed, wonderful day!(6 votes)

- Doesn't it mean that integers are only negative?(3 votes)
- Integers are 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9, e.t.c. They can also be negative, but-(3 votes)

- what a minute how come a couple of fractions are just in the rational section while 1 of them is in the whole number section?(2 votes)
- To classify the numbers, we need to look at them in simplified form.
`14/7`

simplifies to`2`

, which is a whole number. The other fractions do not simplify down to whole numbers, so they only fit in the Rational Number classification.(5 votes)

- Is pi infinite? if not will anybody know the last numbers of it? also can a rational number be a irrational number just in its prime and the other way around?(3 votes)
- Yes, π (or "pi") has a non-repeating decimal that goes on forever.

Rational numbers cannot be irrational, because a number can only be one or the other.

Hope this helps!(3 votes)

- Can π be represented any way other than π or 3.14159...? For example, could we theoretically denote π as "√x / √y = π" where
**neither**√x**nor**√y is a rational number?(2 votes)- Good question!

Assuming that x and y are positive integers, pi cannot be represented in this way. This is because pi has also been shown to be a transcendental number (that is a number that is not a solution of an equation of the form P(x)=0, where P(x) is a non-trivial polynomial with integer coefficients).

However, pi can be represented as the**infinite**series below.

4-(4/3)+(4/5)-(4/7)+(4/9)-...(3 votes)

- Sal only talked about subcategories within rational numbers. Are there also different types of irrational numbers?(3 votes)
- Good question! Really! Pat yourself on the back! You have square roots and decimals, but they all come back to decimals, so...nope!(1 vote)

## Video transcript

- [Voiceover] So we have a
bunch of numbers listed up here, and my goal, in this video,
is to see if we can classify them into different types
of number categories, and let me draw the categories. So this circle, over here, this represents all of the numbers that can be represented as the fraction of two integers, and, of
course, the denominator can't be equal to zero,
because we don't know what it means to put a
zero in the denominator. So, let's call these, or the standard way of calling these things. These things can be
represented as a fraction of two integers, we call
these rational numbers. Rational numbers. And if something cannot be
represented as a fraction of two integers, we
call irrational numbers. Irrational numbers. Irrational numbers. And the size of these circles don't show how large these sets are. There's actually an
infinite number of rational and an infinite number
of irrational numbers. So, these are the irrational numbers. Irrational. So, these cannot be
represented as a fraction of two integers. And then, within rational numbers, you have integers themselves. So, I'll do that in, let me
do that in this blue color. Integers. So, integers are numbers that don't have to be represented as a
fraction or a decimal. So, these are integers, right over here. Integers. And then a subset of
integers are whole numbers. So, if you essentially say
the non-negative integers, you're then talking about whole numbers. So let me do that subset, right over here. So, these are going to
be the whole numbers. So, whole numbers. Whole numbers, right over here. And, actually, let me just label it all. These are rational... Let me do that in the same color. Rational numbers. And, of course, irrational numbers. Irrational numbers. Irrational numbers. An integer. Well, if I could say,
"Look, that is an integer. "Let's think about the integers." But I wouldn't say, "Let's
just think about the rational." I'd say, "Let's think about
the rational numbers." All right, now that we have
these categories in place, let's categorize them. Like always, pause the video. See if you can figure out what category these numbers fall into. Where would you put them on this diagram? So, let's start off with three. This is positive three. It can be definitely
represented as a fraction. You can represent it as three over one. But, it doesn't have to be
represented as a fraction. It, literally, could be just
a three, right over there, but it's also non-negative. So three is a whole number. So three, and maybe I'll do it
in the color of the category. So, three is a whole number. So, it's a member of that set. But if you're a whole number,
you're also an integer, and you're also a rational number. So, three is a whole
number, it's an integer, and it's a rational number. Now, let's think about negative five. Now, negative five, once
again, it can be represented as a fraction, but it doesn't have to be, but it is negative. So, it's not gonna be a whole number. So, negative five is going
to sit right over here. It's an integer, and if you're an integer, you're definitely going
to be a rational number, but it's not a whole number
because it is negative. Now we have 0.25. Well, this, for sure, can be
represented as a fraction. This is 25-hundredths, right over here. So, we can represent that as a fraction of two integers, I should say. It's 25-hundredths. But there's no way to represent this except using a fraction of two integers. So, 0.25 is a rational number, but it's not an integer
and not a whole number. Now what about 22 over seven. Well, here it's clearly
represented, already, as a fraction of two integers, but I don't think I can
represent this any other, except as a fraction of two integers. I can't somehow make this without using a fraction
or some type of decimal that might repeat. So, this, right over here, this would also be a rational number, but it's not an integer,
not a whole number. Now this over here. 0.2713. Now the 13 repeats. This is the same thing as 0.27131313, that's what line up there represents. Now, you might not realize it yet, but any number that repeats eventually, this one does repeat eventually, you have the .1313, or you have the 0.27131313, any number like this can be
represented as a fraction. For example, and I'm
not going to do it here, just for the sake of time, but, for example, 0.3, repeating, that's the same thing as one-third. And later on, we're gonna see techniques of how do you convert this to
a fraction of two integers. But, for our sake, we just know that this can be represented
as a fraction of two integers just the way that 0.3, repeating, can be. And so, we would put this
under rational numbers. 0.2713, repeating. But you have to represent
it either as a decimal or a fraction of integers. If you didn't have to, then
it could have been an integer, but we'll throw it up
there in rational numbers. Now the square root of ten. Square root of ten. This is interesting. So, any square root of
a non-perfect square is going to be irrational. So, this is gonna be irrational. I'm not proving it to you here, but you cannot represent this as the ratio of two integers, or a
fraction with two integers, with an integer in the numerator and an integer in the denominator. This will be, if you were to represent it as a decimal, it will not repeat. It'll just keep being new and new digits. It will not repeat over time. So, this, right over here,
is an irrational number. It's not rational. It cannot be represented as
the ratio of two integers. All right, 14 over seven. This is the ratio of two integers. So, this, for sure, is rational. But if you think about it, 14 over seven, that's another way of saying, 14 over seven is the same thing as two. These two things are equivalent. So, 14 over seven is
the same thing as two. So, this is actually a whole number. It doesn't look like a whole number, but, remember, a whole number is a non-negative number that doesn't need to be represented as the
ratio of two integers. And this one, even though
we did represent it as the ratio of two
integers, it doesn't need to be represented as the
ratio of two integers. You could have represent this as just two. So, that's going to be a whole number. 14 over seven, which is
the same thing as two, that is a whole number. Now, two-pi. Now pi is an irrational... Pi is an irrational number. So if we just take a multiple of pi, if we just take a integer multiple of pi, like that, this is also going
to be an irrational number. If you looked at its
decimal representation, it will never repeat. So that's two-pi, right over there. Now what about... Let me do that same, since
I've been consistent, relatively consistent, with the colors. So, this is two-pi right over there. Now, what about the
negative square root of 25. Well, 25's a perfect square. Square root of that's just gonna be five. So, this thing is going to be, this thing is going to be
equivalent to negative five. So, this is just another representation of this, right over here. So, it is an integer. It's not a whole number
because it's negative, but it's an integer. Negative square root of 25. These two things are actually... These two things are
actually the same number, just different ways of representing them. And then you have, let's
see, you have the square root of nine over... The square root of nine over seven. Well, what's the principal root of nine? This thing is gonna be the same thing, this thing is the same... Let me do this in a different color. This is the same thing as, square root of nine is three, it's the principal root of
nine, so it's three-sevenths. So, this is a ratio of two integers. This is a rational number. Square root of nine over seven is the same thing as three-sevenths. Now, let me just give you
one more just for the road. What about pi over pi? What is that going to be? Well, pi divided by pi is
going to be equal to one. So, this is actually a whole number. So I could write pi over
pi, right over there. That's just a very
fancy way of saying one.