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Using similarity to estimate ratio between side lengths
When two right triangles share an acute angle measure, the ratios of the corresponding side lengths within the triangles are equal. Created by Sal Khan.
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- Is there a easier way to do this? There are questions on the practice that Sal does not explain. Maybe cousin Fal could explain to me.(17 votes)
- Not that I know of!(2 votes)
- At1:38what did Sal mean when he said "We can take the ratio across triangles"?(7 votes)
- It just means you can create a ratio (think of it in fraction form) of similar sides from one triangle to the other.(10 votes)
- At1:33, why did Sal choose triangle 2 to approximate the ratio of PN over MN and not triangle 1 or triangle 3 to approximate the ratio of PN over MN?(2 votes)
- For similar triangles, the angles must be the same. So triangle 2 matches the 35-55-90 angles.(9 votes)
- Can someone help? there are a few questions on the practice that Sal does not explain. I really need help with this And i don't really understand how to do this.(4 votes)
- This is HARD!! Any help?(3 votes)
- I would help you but I'm not sure what it is that you need help with. For starters, Sal chose the triangle that he chose because it was the only triangle with similar angles. Angles are everything with trig. You want to pay attention to the angles that the triangle has to see if they are similar. Then, once you can see the corresponding angles, you can find the corresponding sides. After that, sal just divided the numbers for those corresponding sides to find the ratio. Take deep breaths! You got this.(2 votes)
- so, since all of the angles added together have to equal 180 and there is always one 90 degree angle, can one angle be like 89 degrees and the other 1 degree or is that not how this works?(2 votes)
- That's absolutely how this works. A 1-89-90 triangle would be very long and narrow, but still be a valid triangle.(3 votes)
- If two corresponding sides of two triangles are equal, can they be called similar? Or is it important for two corresponding angles to be equal?(1 vote)
- Similar triangles are based on proportional relationships between the side, and only if the constant of proportionality is one will sides be equal (and then you use the proofs for congruent triangles which are SSS, SAS, ASA, SSA, and HL). If you talk about proportional sides for similar triangles, the proofs are AA, SSS, and SAS. So the question should be if two ... are proportional, can they ...
None of these allow for only two sides, but you do have two sides and the angle between them. The problem with having only two corresponding sides is that the angle between them can create an infinite number of non-similar figures.(5 votes)
- I don't understand what an equivalent statement is that the hints refer to.(1 vote)
- I looked at the practice that was two things away from this video, and it talked about proportional statements. I assume when given the 3 triangles, you can find the one with the same angle measures, so these triangles are similar by the AA postulate. Besides having same angle measures, similar triangles also have matching sides that are all proportional to one another. I teach my students that when you see the word proportional, draw a horizontal line + horizontal line. This forces you to find 3 numbers and 1 unknown, in this case, we have three possible sets of proportional numbers since there are 3 sides, one of them has to include the unknown and the other has to have matching sides. The two numerators should be from two sides of one of the triangles, and the denominators from the two sides thant match those two sides on the other triangle.(4 votes)
- I don't think the sides of triangle 3 were calculated because it has a hypotenuse of 10 (5∙2) but the other two sides aren't 8(4∙2) and 6(3∙2) and yes this works for every right triangle if the sides are 5x(hypotenuse), 4x(medium side), and 3x(small side) it adds up to a right triangle. You can use the pythagorean theorem to see for yourself (and if you don't know what the pythagorean theorem is what are you doing in trigonometry?).(2 votes)
- While the 3-4-5 and 6-8-10 triangles are both Pythagorean triples, there are multiple triangles which have a hypotenuse of 10. So 6.4^2+7.7^2=10.25 which is just based on loose approximations of another set of numbers that will have a hypotenuse of 10. I could choose 3.475 as one side, and if I did 10^2 - 3.475^2 and take the square root, the other side would be 9.3768.(1 vote)
- does the square let you know it's a right angle ?(1 vote)
- yes it is a symbol for 90 degrees.(3 votes)
- [Instructor] So we've been given some information about these three triangles here. And then they say, "Use one of the triangles," so use one of these three triangles, "to approximate the ratio." The ratio's the length of segment PN divided by the length of segment MN. So they want us to figure out the ratio of PN over MN. So pause this video and see if you can figure this out. All right, now let's work through this together. Now, given that they want us to figure out this ratio and they want us to actually evaluate it or be able to approximate it, we are probably dealing with similarity. And so what I would wanna look for is, are one of these triangles similar to the triangle we have here? And we're dealing with similar triangles if we have two angles in common. Because if we have two angles in common, then that means that we definitely have the third angle as well, because the third angle's completely determined by what the other two angles are. So we have a 35 degree angle here. And we have a 90 degree angle here. And out of all of these choices, this doesn't have a 35 degree angle, it has a 90. This doesn't have 35, has a 90. But triangle two here has a 35 degree angle, has a 90 degree angle and has a 55 degree angle. And if you did the math, knowing that 35 plus 90 plus this have to add up to 180 degrees, you would see that this too has a measure of 55 degrees. And so given that all of our angle measures are the same between triangle PNM and triangle number two right over here, we know that these two are similar triangles. And so the ratios between corresponding sides are going to be the same. We could either take the ratio across triangles. Or we could say the ratio within, where we just look at one triangle. And so if you look at PN over MN, let me try to color code it. So PN, right over here, that corresponds to the side that's opposite the 35 degree angle. So that would correspond to this side, right over here on triangle two. And then MN, that's this that I'm coloring in this blueish color not so well, probably spend more time coloring. That's opposite the 55 degree angle. And so opposite the 55 degree angle would be right over there. Now, since these triangles are similar, the ratio of the red side, the length of the red side over the length of the blue side is going to be the same in either triangle. So PN, let me write it this way. The length of segment PN over the length of segment MN is going to be equivalent to 5.7 over 8.2. 'Cause this ratio is going to be the same for the corresponding sides, regardless of which triangle you look at. So if you take the side that's opposite 35 degrees, that's 5.7 over 8.2. Now to be very clear, it doesn't mean that somehow the length of this side is 5.7 or that the length of this side is 8.2. We would only be able to make that conclusion if they were congruent. But with similarity, we know that the ratios, if we look at the ratio of the red side to the blue side on each of those triangles, that would be the same. And so this gives us that ratio. And let's see, 5.7 over 8.2, which of these choices get close to that? Well, we could say that this is roughly, if I am approximating it, let's see, it's going to be larger than 0.57. Because 8.2 is less than 10. And so we are going to rule this choice out. And 5.7 is less than 8.2. So it can't be over one. And so we have to think between these two choices. Well, the simplest thing I can do is actually just try to start dividing it by hand. So 8.2 goes into 5.7 the same number of times as 82 goes into 57. And I'll add some decimals here. So it doesn't go into 57. But how many times does 82 go into 570? I would assume it's about 6 times, maybe seven times, looks like. So seven times two is 14. And then seven times eight is 56. This is 57. So it's actually a little less than 0.7. This maybe go a little bit too high. So if I am approximating, it's gonna be 0.6 something. So I like choice B, right over there.