Representing structures of organic molecules using line (or line-angle) diagrams. Created by Sal Khan.
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- What type of diagrams are they all called? For example, I know one is called a line diagram, but what are the other two?(30 votes)
- Do you have any videos on conformations and cyclohexane structures? I am having trouble understanding what the difference is between the chair, boat, and twisted boat conforamtions. Also, how do you draw Newman Projections of Cyclohexanes? What effect do cis and trans conformations have on the torsional strain?(36 votes)
Maybe that'll help? Sorry I'm so far behind on the times here(4 votes)
- why aren't there chains of silicon -it also has 4 valence electrons?(7 votes)
- There are - silane is SiH4 like methane, and there is a family of silanes like the alkanes. They are, however, not stable in air - spontaneously combustible to make water and silicon dioxide.(11 votes)
- The title of this video is called "Naming Simple Alkanes". But, what exactly are alkanes? Do they have to do with Alkaline or Alkaline Earth metals in the periodic table? Also, is the line diagram shown in the video only for organic compounds? Or are they for all molecules?
- Alkanes are not related to Alkaline or Alkaline Earth metals, despite the similarity of their names. Alkanes are chains of carbon atoms connected together by single covalent bonds (can be straight chains or branched), with each carbon having enough hydrogens attached to bring its total number of bonds to 4.
In line diagrams, each corner represents a carbon, so yes, they are primarily used for organic compounds (but you can draw lines between atoms to represent non-organic molecules too, you just need to label each atom).(10 votes)
- NH4CNO(Ammonium Cyanate) ---(heat)---> NH2CONH2 (Urea). This is an example of an organic compound synthesized from an inorganic compound. But why is Urea an organic compound and not ammonium cyanate even though both have carbon atom in their respective molecules ?(4 votes)
- Unfortunately there isn't a clear, generally accepted definition for what makes a compound organic.
To be organic a compound must contain carbon.
Compounds with carbon-hydrogen bonds will generally be thought of as organic.
Urea is generally classified as organic, while cyanate (and other cyanide derivatives) are generally classified as inorganic. I agree that this is more than a little arbitrary.
You can read more about this in the following wikipedia article:
- hi! in the last representation of the molecule with the addition of the CH3's at the end of the lines why does it represent ch3-ch2-ch3 and not ch3-ch2-ch2-ch2-ch3 meaning that the end of the lines are carbon atoms themselves?(4 votes)
- 1) At5:50the line angle diagram was mentioned. How will Methane’s line angle diagram look like?
2) In another Khan academy video, propane had a different structure. Why?
3) Would it be correct to call propane “C3H8”?(4 votes)
- 1-methane doesn’t have one
2-you’d need to link to that video, but there’s different ways of representing structures of molecules
3-all straight chain alkanes have the formula CnH2n+2 so yes propane is C3H8(4 votes)
- For propane can't you just write it as C3H8?(0 votes)
- Would there be any specific cases it would be better to use the line angle diagram over one of the others to clarify the structure?(3 votes)
- As molecules get more complex, it becomes more important to use simpler representations.
Line-angle diagrams are very useful for grasping the essential features of more complex molecules.
For example, there are several different molecules collectively referred to as "estrogen" — these steroid hormones are only moderately complex for biomolecules, but it is much easier to compare their structures using line diagrams.
See for example this diagram from the wikipedia article on estrogen:
In contrast, trying to pick out the differences from ball-and-stick structures is harder — e.g.s:
• esterone: https://goo.gl/images/E8eDxo
• estradiol: https://goo.gl/images/z7Go9s
Does that help?(4 votes)
- I have two questions:
1. besides the molecular structure, what's the difference between propane and methane?
2. in the beginning of the video, Sal says "one carbon chain" and then says "so it's really kind of ridiculous to call it a chain", is that because it's an oxymoron: chain meaning a group of things linked together, but then saying "ONE carbon CHAIN"?(2 votes)
- Methane and propane are different molecules so they have quite a lot of differences. The simplest difference is their molecular formula. Methane is CH4 while propane is C3H8. This also means their molar masses are different since they have different numbers of atoms which compose them. Methane is 16.04 g/mol while propane is 44.097 g/mol. They are both hydrocarbons so they behave similar, but they have slight differences in their physical properties such as their boiling points and densities.
Methane is the simplest organic molecule which only one carbon so it is a little odd calling it a chain because a chain does usually mean we have a series of connected groups. If we use the chain analogy, then methane would be a chain composed of a single link without other links.
A slight grammar tangent, but methane being a single link in a chain wouldn’t be considered an oxymoron. An oxymoron is a two-word phrase with contradictory individual words. A good example would be bittersweet or passive aggressive.
Hope that helps.(4 votes)
The one thing that probably causes some of the most pain in chemistry, and in organic chemistry, in particular, is just the notation and the nomenclature or the naming that we use. And what I want to do here in this video and really the next few videos is to just make sure we have a firm grounding in the notation and in the nomenclature or how we name things, and then everything else will hopefully not be too difficult. So just to start off, and this is really a little bit of review of regular chemistry, if I just have a chain of carbons, and organic chemistry is dealing with chains of carbons. Let me just draw a one-carbon chain, so it's really kind of ridiculous to call it a chain, but if we have one carbon over here and it has four valence electrons, it wants to get to eight. That's the magic number we learned in just regular chemistry. For all molecules, that's the stable valence structure, I guess you could say it. A good partner to bond with is hydrogen. So it has four valence electrons and then hydrogen has one valence electron, so they can each share an electron with each other and then they both look pretty happy. I said eight's the magic number for everybody except for hydrogen and helium. Both of them are happy because they're only trying to fill their 1s orbital, so the magic number for those two guys is two. So all of the hydrogens now feel like they have two electrons. The carbon feels like it has eight. Now, there's several ways to write this. You could write it just like this and you can see the electrons explicitly, or you can draw little lines here. So I could also write this exact molecule, which is methane, and we'll talk a little bit more about why it's called methane later in this video. I can write this exact structure like this: a carbon bonded to four hydrogens. And the way that I've written these bonds right here you could imagine that each of these bonds consists of two electrons, one from the carbon and one from the hydrogen. Now let's explore slightly larger chains. So let's say I have a two-carbon chain. Well, let me do a three-carbon chain so it really looks like a chain. So if I were to draw everything explicitly it might look like this. So I have a carbon. It has one, two, three, four electrons. Maybe I have another carbon here that has-- let me do the carbons in slightly different shades of yellow. I have another carbon here that has one, two, three, four electrons. And then let me do the other carbon in that first yellow. And then I have another carbon so we're going to have a three-carbon chain. It has one, two, three, four valence electrons. Now, these other guys are unpaired, and if you don't specify it, it's normally going to be hydrogen, so let me draw some hydrogens over here. So you're going to have a hydrogen there, a hydrogen over there, a hydrogen over here, a hydrogen over here, a hydrogen over there, a hydrogen over here, almost done, a hydrogen there, and then a hydrogen there. Now notice, in this molecular structure that I've drawn, I have three carbons. They were each able to form four bonds. This guy has bonds with three hydrogens and another carbon. This guy has a bond with two hydrogens and two carbons. This guy has a bond with three hydrogens and then this carbon right here. And so this is a completely valid molecular structure, but it was kind of a pain to draw all of these valence electrons here. So what we typically would want to do is, at least in this structure, and we're going to see later in this video there's even simpler ways to write it, so if we want at least do it with these lines, we can draw it like this. So you have a carbon, carbon, carbon, and then they are bonded to the hydrogens. So you'll almost never see it written like this because this is just kind of crazy. Hyrdrogen, hydrogen-- at least crazy to write. It takes forever. And it might be messy, like it might not be clear where these electrons belong. I didn't write it as clearly as I could. So they have two electrons there. They share with these two guys. Hopefully, that was reasonably clear. But if we were to draw it with the lines, it looks just like that. So it's a little bit neater, faster to draw, same exact idea here and here. And in general, and we'll go in more detail on it, this three-carbon chain, where everything is a single bond, is propane. Let me write these words down because it's helpful to get. This is methane. And you're going to see the rhyme-- you're going to see the reason to this naming soon enough. This is methane; this is propane. And there's an even simpler way to write propane. You could write it like this. Instead of explicitly drawing these bonds, you could say that this part right here, you could write that that part right there, that is CH3, so you have a CH3, connected to a-- this is a CH2, that is CH2 which is then connected to another CH3. And the important thing is, no matter what the notation, as long as you can figure out the exact molecular structure, as long as you can-- so there's this last CH3. Whether you have this, this, or this, you know what the molecular structure is. You could draw any one of these given any of the others. Now, there's an even simpler way to write this. You could write it just like this. Let me do it in a different color. You literally could write it so we have three carbons. So one, two, three. Now, this seems ridiculously simple and you're like, how can this thing right here give you the same information as all of these more complicated ways to draw it? Well, in chemistry, and in organic chemistry in particular, any of these-- let me call it a line diagram or a line angle diagram. It's the simplest way and it's actually probably the most useful way to show chains of carbons or to show organic molecules. Once they start to get really, really complicated, because then it's a pain to draw all of the H's, but when you see something like this, you assume that the end points of any lines have a carbon on it. So if you see something like that, you assume that there's a carbon at that end point, a carbon at that end point, and a carbon at that end point. And then you know that carbon makes four bonds. There are no charges here. All the carbons are going to make four bonds, and each of the carbons here, this carbon has two bonds, so the other two bonds are implicitly going to be with hydrogens. If they don't draw them, you assume that they're going to be with hydrogens. This guy has one bond, so the other three must be with hydrogen. This guy has one bond, so the other three must be hydrogens. So just drawing that little line angle thing right there, I actually did convey the exact same information as this depiction, this depiction, or this depiction. So you're going to see a lot of this. This really simplifies things. And sometimes you see things that are in between. You might see someone draw it like this, where they'll write CH3, and then they'll draw it like that. So that's kind of combining this way of writing the molecule where you write the CH3's for the end points, but then you implicitly have the CH2 on the inside. You assume that this end point right here is a C and it's bonded to two hydrogens. So these are all completely valid ways of drawing the molecular structures of these carbon chains or of these organic compounds.