Health and medicine
- What is cyanotic heart disease
- Shunting in the heart
- Einsenmenger coarctation of aorta
- Tetralogy of fallot
- Truncus arteriosus
- Total anomalous pulmonary venous return
- Tricuspid atresia
- Transposition of great arteries
- Ebstein's anomaly
- Hypoplastic left heart syndrome and norwood glenn fontan
- Cyanotic heart diseases - Diagnosis and treatment
Created by Amy Fan.
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- What makes the blood seem blue? is it due to the tinting of the skin blood vessels etc.?(2 votes)
- "the whites of the eyes" don't become cyanotic(3 votes)
- The sclera (aka whites) themselves don't become blue in cyanosis, but the vessels visible in them can.(2 votes)
- Do cyanotic heart diseases always result in a 'blue' baby?(2 votes)
- I decided to look up the question and see about it. My resource was Pediatric Nursing by Kathryn Rudd and Diane Kocisko (chapter 12). I saw for the cyanotic heart diseases that one of the assessments is cyanosis (meaning blue). Now I did see for tetralogy of Fallot that you can have something called pink tet spells where you are more pink than blue. I think many of times when the baby is blue is because they are crying or eating or a traumatic event is occuring. For pulmonary atresia, you will have severe cyanosis at birth. Another cyanotic disease is total anomalous pulmonary venous return (TAPVR) and my assessment in the book says when the PDA is open then you don't have that many symptoms but when the PDA closes then you will have severe cyanosis and even heart failure. So sounds like for all the diseases you will have blue as a symptom/sign but the blueness might vary from mild to severe.(2 votes)
- how do you measure arterial o2 concentratin? as saturation probes work on capillaries. Is it 'arterial stab'? e.g. femoral blood gas puncure(1 vote)
- Measuring the oxygen saturation in arterial blood requires the presence of an arterial line from which to draw arterial samples or arterial sticks. Usually if an arterial line is not present, blood gas samples are obtained from the radial artery.(3 votes)
- When we talk about cyanotic heart diseases we'll come back to what cyanotic means in just a second. So, congenital means that it is something that the person was born with. So they have heart disease not because they didn't eat right or something was wrong with their environment, but because their heart is structurally abnormal. And these days, with all the technology, we can actually ultrasound the mom's belly and see that this baby has congenital heart disease because, again, this is something structural that we can physically see with our eyes. For cyanotic, I think the best synonym to use is blue. So blue, in medical terms, means this baby looks blue. And by the way, I'm going to keep saying baby, because when we think of congenital heart disease we're usually talking about babies because they need treatment early. And yes, they do survive into adulthood which is nice, but when we talk about treatment or diagnosing, most of the time we're dealing with the pediatric world, so this baby is blue. Now babies can look blue for lots and lots of reasons. It could be a lung disease thing, it could be something with their circulation, but obviously, for our purposes, we care about their heart making them blue. So this is a baby, the most obvious ways to see this bluish tint in people of all colors, are the mucus membranes, so the whites of their eyes might turn blue, their lips, and the tip of their tongue is a good place. Sometimes, if it's really severe, their body will start to become cyanotic, and that's how you know they really are lacking oxygen. So to go back even further, we have this idea in medicine that when blood has a lot of carbon dioxide in it, it is blue, and blood with oxygen in it, is red, how we usually think of blood, and this is true to a certain extent. Blood that has less oxygen in it has a darker tint, but is not actually blue. For our purposes, we'll keep it that way. So we just want to go over the function of the heart really quickly. This is not going to be anatomically correct. This is my schematic of the heart, and we have our four chambers. I'm just going to go over, roughly, what the heart does. So the top two are the atria. So this is the right atrium. The other thing is, this is going to be right, and this is going to be left. That's just how it is designated in medicine, because when we look at an xray or a film, it is usually flipped like this. So, let's get used to the right side being on the left side. So the right atrium, left atrium. The right ventricle, these bottom chambers are going to be ventricles, they are the big pumping chambers. And the left ventricle. So, blood from the body that's been used up by the tissues, the oxygen's been used up, it's going to be a bluish blood. We think of it as deoxygenated blood. Blood with a lot of carbon dioxide, or CO2 in it. This gets returned to the right atrium first. From there, it goes to the right ventricle. There's going to be a valve here. Actually, there are going to be valves between each of the chambers and places, and those are some of the places that can be structurally abnormal in congenital heart disease, but we'll worry about that in just a second. From the right ventricle, it gets pumped to the lungs. And the lungs is where we pick up oxygen, that's why we breathe in and out, getting oxygen into our blood. So blood coming out of the lungs, then, is going to be red, because oxygen has been added to it. So red blood returns to the left atrium. Have you noticed that the atria seem to receive blood from outside the heart? These are the receiving chambers. So it flows into the left ventricle. The left ventricle is the most powerful one, because it has to pump blood really far to the rest of the body, so now we have this person that's red because they have more oxygen in their blood. And just for completeness sake, vessels that receive blood from the heart are called arteries. So we have red blood usually traveling in the arteries. Delivers it to the tissue, oxygen leaves to go work in the tissues, in other words oxygen is extracted the blood goes into veins, and veins are vessels that return blood to the heart. So usually, in a healthy person, we want the oxygen content in arteries to be above 90 percent. For a healthy person, is actually usually around 98, 99, but above 90 percent we can live with. We like that. So now the oxygen in the veins will obviously be less than 90 percent. We're probably happy with 70s, 80s, it depends on a lot of different factors. So you see that when we think of arteries and veins, we expect them to have different levels of oxygen. So what is cyanosis then? I said before that this blueness comes from the blood not having enough oxygen, and here we're talking about arteries. Vein oxygen content, yeah, we care in some circumstances, but right now, for congenital heart disease, we care about arteries (mumbles) enough oxygen. So what exact level we have cyanosis kind of is a little bit dependent on the person. But we know for sure that it is less than 90 percent, so in this case, cyanosis starts to happen around 80 to 85 percent oxygen. It's a nice ball park. It might go up and down depending on if this person is anemic, how well their lungs are working, all these things vary. But in general, cyanosis tells us that we're definitely less than 90 percent, and we're somewhere in the 80s ball park. If we drop below that, it starts to be very dangerous. So people can live in the 80s. If we drop much lower than this, it starts to get dangerous and life threatening. People can live in the 80s for the saturation of oxygen. It's not ideal, but they can definitely live here. For some congenital heart diseases, getting them to the 80s is kind of the best we can do. But we don't use cyanotic, a disease, as kind of a clinical way to assess them. It's more of a category that separates cyanotic from non-cyanotic heart disease. There are heart diseases that you can have structural abnormalities where even though your heart doesn't have great function, your artery oxygen saturation doesn't get affected. This baby will stay nice and pink above 90 percent. So this is really a category that we're talking about, cyanotic versus non-cyanotic. Without going into too much detail, if we just look at this rough diagram of the heart, cyanotic diseases, as a general rule, will involve some sort of mechanism for the blood to be mixing in a way that the right is shunting to the left. Shunting talks about something that was supposed to be over here being pushed over there. So as you can see the right side of the heart is this blue blood, when it gets pushed over here, then we mix, and we drop the oxygen saturation over here. So just in the back of your mind, think about right and left shunting, and how the blood is mixing this way, when we talk about specific cyanotic heart diseases.