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Lesson 7: Nerve regulation of the heartChanging the AV node delay - chronotropic effect
Find out exactly how your autonomic nervous system has a chronotropic effect (i.e. timing) that changes the delay between the contraction of the atria and the ventricles! Rishi is a pediatric infectious disease physician and works at Khan Academy. Created by Rishi Desai.
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- i love these videos. do you have any made for the Bowditch/Treppe staircase? i'm not really getting that and you are AWESOME at explaining.(9 votes)
- No, unfortunately there are no videos on this site for that topic. I'm sure YouTube has some good ones, though!(3 votes)
- isnt the downward part of the AV node's action potential supposed to be 3? I know you named it 3 in previous vids and 1 in others. please let me know. You guys are doing something magical with khan academy!!(6 votes)
- yes it's supposed to be 3. it's just a little oversight i guess.(2 votes)
- Is this effect not called dromotropic effect?(3 votes)
- Dromotropes are agents that affect the conduction speed of the AV node, while chromotopes are those that change heart rate. While dromotropes are often also chormotropes; however this is not always the case.(3 votes)
- At, Dr. Rishi says "neurotransmitter" but drew an axon terminal. Did Dr. Rishi mean "axon terminal" instead of "neurotransmitter"? 5:37(2 votes)
- No, he said neurotransmitter because the axon terminals send neurotransmitters, which are norepinephrine and acetylcholine in this video, to communicate with the other cell.
You could watch this video, https://www.khanacademy.org/science/health-and-medicine/human-anatomy-and-physiology/nervous-system-introduction/v/neuronal-synapses-chemical, atto learn more about how the neuron communicate with other cells with neurotransmitters. 8:53(4 votes)
- Which phase/s of the action potential here for the specialized cardiomyocytes in the AV node is responsible for the PR interval and the delay in conduction?(2 votes)
- It would be phase 0 and and about half way down the slope of phase 1. Once the action potential for the AV pacemaker cell has reached the apex, the Purkinje cells are going to have their action potential almost immediately. The ventricular cardiac myocytes will then contract.
You can see a good image here: http://tmedweb.tulane.edu/pharmwiki/lib/exe/fetch.php/apd_ecg.png?w=600&tok=9d495d(2 votes)
- What is the connection between slower phase 0 and slower conductiviy (and thus delay)?(2 votes)
- So why in these videos do you guys skip phases 1 and 2? I'm just curious because I feel that only showing three of the phases can be misleading in terms of studying.(1 vote)
- The reason that only phase 4, 0 and 3 are shown in this video is because Dr. Desai is showing the action potential of the AV node and, for this type of a cell, phases 1 and 2 are missing. If you look at an action potential for a cardiac myocyte, you will see all 4 phases represented. To see all of the phases, look aton the video "Action potentials in cardiac myocytes". 11:30(2 votes)
Video transcript
So I'm going to draw
for you a quick figure to show you exactly what
happens with the AV node. So this is our AV
node over time, right? And we've got zero millivolts
here-- positive and negative. And you know the
AV node is actually going to look really similar
to what the SA node looks like. But there are a couple
of key differences. As I draw them, I'm
going to highlight them. So one is that there's
a shallow increase. So this is of course
the first phase. This is phase 4. And it increases very,
very kind of subtly, and then it finally gets
to that threshold, right? So it finally reaches
this threshold point where the voltage-gated
calcium channels flip open, and it rises again. But it's kind of
shallow once again. And it gets up to this point
and then goes back down. And so that's your phase 0
right here and your phase 1. So what are the
differences exactly? Well, one difference is that
there's a shallow phase 4. And why is it so shallow? What's the reason behind that? Well, remember that the AV node
has a heart rate that it would like to set, and it's
relatively on the low side. It's somewhere
between 40 and 60. So compared to the SA node,
it's a lower heart rate, which means it's going
to be a longer heartbeat. So the fact that it's a
shallow phase 4 kind of alludes to the fact that the AV node
likes to keep a low heart rate. I'll write down arrow. But I want to also
point out that usually, under normal circumstances,
this doesn't really matter a whole
lot because the SA node is in charge
of the heart rate. And so even though
it's a low heart rate, we don't really care
about this phase 4 usually because the
SA node is in charge. So unless the SA node is out
on a holiday or something, this doesn't matter
so much because the SA node is in charge. So that means that we can
kind of draw our attention to the other two parts, right? Because that means phase 0
and phase 1 still matter. And there's one key difference
there that I want to point out, and that is that you also have
kind of a shallow phase 0. So think about that. If the phase 0 is
shallow and we know this is the action
potential, right-- this is the action
potential-- well, what implications does that have? What does that mean? Well, the slope of the
action potential-- and this is actually kind of
an interesting idea to get your head around--
the slope of the action potential is going to
affect conduction velocity. Because really
that's where the ions are kind of leaking
into the neighbor cells. So if this was
really, really steep, you'd have a fast
conduction velocity. And if it's shallow,
like this one is, you have a kind of low
conduction velocity. So the effect of this is
going to be a low conduction velocity, meaning that ions
are taking kind of a while to get over to neighboring
cells and trigger their action potentials. So going from cell,
to cell, to cell, it's going to be kind of
sluggish through that AV node. And now you might be
thinking, well, wait a second. We've talked about this
in a way before because this sluggishness, this
decreased conduction velocity, this is the explanation,
we think, for the delay. So you remember in the AV
node, you have a delay. And usually it's
about 0.1 seconds. And this is the reason why. Because this phase 0 is going
up so sluggishly, so slowly, that it actually creates
a delay between the atria and the ventricles. A delay that-- it
might seem initially that it's kind of
a waste of time, but really it
matters because you want to create that delay
so the ventricles don't squeeze too early. So this is how you
create that delay. You have that shallow phase 0. So now, let me actually
make a little space. And I'm going to ask you
to think about something from the cell's perspective. So imagine now you
have a cell-- I'm going to draw it out for you. And this is our cell right here. And our cell is kind
of doing its own thing and letting-- we're going
to actually look at phase 0. Actually, let me
write that here. This is going to be phase 0. So in phase 0, what's happening? Well, our cell has these
voltage-gated calcium channels. And that's actually
really important. So we talk about
calcium channels, and sometimes I haven't
done a great job of kind of clarifying
voltage-gated versus non-voltage-gated. But remember in phase
4, those calcium ions are coming through kind
of normal channels. But these ones
are voltage-gated, meaning they kind
of quickly flip on, but then they also
quickly flip off. And so these voltage-gated
calcium channels are going to let calcium
in during phase 0. So calcium is going to kind
of flood inside the cell. And that's the
reason that you're getting that rise in the
membrane potential, right? It's rising up, up, up. And so the calcium's coming in. And these cells, interestingly,
have little receptors on them. You might be kind
of now guessing where this is all going to go. These receptors are
for a neurotransmitter that's coming from
the sympathetic nerve. So sympathetic
nerves are actually coming down and
landing on the AV node just as they did on
the SA node, right? So they're kind of
landing here, and they're letting off their
norepinephrine. Their norepinephrine
is coming in here. And on the other side, you
have receptors as well. So you've got little receptors
on this side as well. And there are also nerves here. And as I said before,
I'm drawing it kind of as two different
sides of the cell, but you know that's just
the way I'm drawing it. It has nothing to do
with the reality of it. It's not like the cell
actually organizes one side to be for the
sympathetics and the other side to be for the parasympathetics. But that's definitely how
my mind kind of sees it just because I guess
I'm adversarial. And you have a
little signal coming in from the parasympathetic
nerve on this side, and a competitive signal
coming in on this side. And actually let me just make
sure I'm super clear here. This neurotransmitter
is acetylcholine. And so the sympathetic
nerve is telling this cell to allow more calcium
to come in quickly. And the parasympathetic nerve is
basically putting on the brakes and saying, no, don't let
calcium come in quite so fast. So these two are
competing back and forth. Let me make a little
bit of space here. So going back up
to our picture, I'm going to ignore phase 4 because
we know, again, the heart rate is really going to be
dominated by the SA node. So we don't have to
worry about phase 4 so much because, really, the
interesting bit begins there. So if the sympathetics
won out, then you'd have a rise that would go
pretty quick like that, and then it would
fall like that, OK? And if the
parasympathetics won, it would actually be
the opposite, right? It would rise more slowly
because less calcium is coming in over a given period of time. And then it's going
to go down like that. So really what we're looking
at is the slope going up or is the slope
going down depending on whether the sympathetics or
parasympathetics are in charge. And now if I said that the slope
is related to the conduction velocity, if we-- do you
remember we said that earlier? The conduction
velocity is going to be affected by the
slope of the line. Well, then basically what
you're going to be doing is changing the amount of delay. So now let me actually
play this out, and you'll see how cool
this gets in just a moment. And let's make a little
bit of space on our canvas. So here we go. If we have now three
scenarios, OK-- we're going to do a baseline scenario. And we're going to do two
scenarios with one sympathetics in control and one with
parasympathetics in control. And I'm going to show you kind
of the number of heartbeats you get. So at baseline, let's say
you have, I don't know, let's say four heartbeats. And this would be-- let's
say these little white arrows represent atrial systole. So this is when the atria are
contracting-- atrial systole. And let's say in
another color, let me do blue, this represents
ventricular systole. So this is when the
ventricles are contracting. So that will be
ventricular systole. Ventricular systole-- when
the ventricles contract. And we know that's
going to happen about a tenth of a
second later usually. So this delay is usually
about 0.1 seconds. So if I was to kind of watch
this over time I'd have, of course, another
ventricle systole there, another one right there, and
a fourth one right there. Now, if sympathetics are kind
of driving this cell-- let's say actually I'm running, right? So this is a scenario
where I'm running. And I'm being chased or
maybe I'm chasing someone. And over the same time
frame, what would happen? Well, I'll have,
in this case, I'll have more atrial
systoles, right? Because my SA node is going
to fire more frequently. The heart rate's going to go up. So I'm going to have,
instead of just four, maybe I'll have--
I don't know, I'm going to have to see I guess. I'll have maybe-- looks
like six, six heartbeats. And that's because
the big difference is SA node affects heart rate. And if I was to draw
in now my ventricles, I would draw
something like this. And you see these
ventricular systoles are happening right after
the atrial systoles, which is actually really interesting
because this points out that I have kind
of a smaller delay. Maybe my delay is, I don't know,
maybe 0.08 seconds-- slightly less than 0.1 second. So now parasympathetics,
you have basically the opposite problem
or the opposite change. I shouldn't call it a problem. It's not really
a problem, right? You'd have, let's say, three
heartbeats in the span of time we're following. And if you were to
see the ventricles they contract, but they contract
with a much longer delay. So if you were to
kind of measure out this delay,
instead of 0.1 seconds, now this is let's say
0.1 or maybe 0.2 seconds. Maybe it's double. So you can see that the SA node
had a change in heart rate, and the AV node, because of this
sympathetic or parasympathetic drive, had a change in delay. So these are the two
kind of big changes that you see when sympathetic
and parasympathetic nerves are acting on the SA
node and AV node.