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Lesson 9: Immunologic system introduction- Role of phagocytes in innate or nonspecific immunity
- Types of immune responses: Innate and adaptive, humoral vs. cell-mediated
- B lymphocytes (B cells)
- Professional antigen presenting cells (APC) and MHC II complexes
- Helper T cells
- Cytotoxic T cells
- Review of B cells, CD4+ T cells and CD8+ T cells
- Clonal selection
- Self vs. non-self immunity
- How white blood cells move around
- Inflammatory response
- Blood cell lineages
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Professional antigen presenting cells (APC) and MHC II complexes
Professional antigen presenting cells (APCs) are immune cells that specialize in presenting an antigen to a T-cell. The main types of professional APCs are dendritic cells (DC), macrophages, and B cells. A professional APC takes up an antigen, processes it, and returns part of it to its surface, along with a class II major histocompatibility complex (MHC). The T-cell is activated when it interacts with the formed complex. Created by Sal Khan.
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- what is the difference between MHC 1 and MHC 2?(19 votes)
- All cells with a nucleus contain MHC I. Whereas APCs (Antigen Presenting Cells) contain MHCII.(10 votes)
- Is there a limit to how many viruses/bacteria etc, that an average immune system can effectivly respond to? For instance
may a person have so many polyclonal memory cells or 'activated' cells for let's say the Epstein-Barr virus or the Cytomegalo virus that there are not enough resources left for other pathogens?(17 votes)- No. The body has billions of B cells which can each react to a different antigen (or pathogen). In other words, we have no limit. Some people may appear to have a limited response to particular pathogens due to a failure of the immune cells to undergo clonal expansion or an inability to be activated (eg a T cell or B cell deficiency)(27 votes)
- Can a bacteria take over a phagocyte from the inside after it is devoured by the phagocyte?(8 votes)
- "take over" is not the right term. Some bacteria can hide inside phagocytes and avoid detection from the body's immune system. TB, for example, can collect macrophages around it which form a dormant collection of TB in a concentrated area called a granuloma.(23 votes)
- Do phagocytes ever accidentally eat other normal phagocytes?(7 votes)
- In a normal, healthy person they do not. The whole purpose of the immune system is to recognize self vs. non-self and subsequently destroy the non-self pathogens. With certain autoimmune diseases it is possible for our body to attack our own cells, but in general phagocytes do not "eat" our normal phagocytes.(17 votes)
- Can a pathogen infiltrate a Phagocyte?(7 votes)
- Macrophages can be infected with HIV and Tuberculosis.
TB can survive inside a macrophage.(5 votes)
- Can you explain the Ags that MHC I vs. MHC II deal with (exogenous vs. endogenous)? Is endogenous related to viruses and intracellular pathogens and exogenous more pathogens that live independently?(7 votes)
- Endogenous peptides are generated within the cytosol while exogenous peptides are generated extracellulary (outside the cell) but are taken inside the cell through a vesicle. As viruses must replicate intracellulary, their peptides will generally be presented to the MHC I molecule.(7 votes)
- I know the antigen isn't harmful after it has been engulfed by the phagocyte however the antigen would still be non-self (as it is not one of our own antigens) so would it continue to be broken down ?? and if so , until when? because surely this cannot go on forever??(5 votes)
- Ur right its destructed only once ..... after destruction/digestion efforts are taken to ensure infection doesnt happen again so 'memory' is generated ....after that of course it is exocytosed (thrown out of cell) .......(3 votes)
- I might not be wording this question right but how is there already a b cell with the correct sequences for any kind of virus it my come in contact with () if it never had been introduced to the body before? 7:05(3 votes)
- The short answer is: random chance.
As part of the development process of B-cells, they undergo some genetic recombination and expression changes that will result in a novel receptor that may be expressed on the cell surface. As long as that receptor is not activated by self, its kept. If the B-cell then encounters that antigen, it undergoes further changes that result in a sub population of B cells derived from that first one that "tweaks" the B-cell receptor to enhance the binding affinity of the receptor as well as to produce different types of immunoglobins. This is why, no matter what the antigen is, you'll always have some part of the population that is immune or at least resistant.(6 votes)
- In this video, Sal says that the B cells that eject the antibodies are called plasma cells. However, in the previous video, he called them effector cells. Are these two words synonyms or is Sal talking about different B cells?(5 votes)
- Synonym.
Plasma cells are the effector cells dedicated to the production of a high amount of antibodies, while the immunological memory is maintained by memory B cells that are the effectors of rapid immunological response upon later exposure to the same antigen.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/plasma-cell(2 votes)
- Is pathogen and antigen the same thing?(2 votes)
- No - an antigen is a part of a pathogen - i.e., a portion of the pathogen that elicits an immune response (like a protein on the surface of a bacteria) it isn't the entire pathogen itself.(2 votes)
Video transcript
In the very first immunology
video, where we talked about nonspecific defense mechanisms,
we said if we had some type of a pathogen-- let's
say it's a bacteria-- that our phagocytes can
recognize either proteins on the bacteria or maybe it was
some other type of pathogen-- some other marker
on the pathogen. It doesn't know what type of
pathogen it is, but that's enough for the phagocyte. It'll engulf the pathogen. So let's say this is
the phagocyte. Somehow one of their receptors
touches one of the proteins that's on the surface of this
bacteria in this case and says, gee, that's not a good
thing to have around and so it'll engulf it. So the membrane is just going to
surround the pathogen-- and this part is going to go in. It's going to kind of pinch in
and the pathogen is going to get surrounded and
get engulfed-- phagocytozed by the phagocyte. So the end product-- we saw this
on the first video where I talked about phagocytes-- is
we're going to end up-- so then the membrane's going
to be completely around. This is going to pinch in and
bubble around this thing and so we're going to have
the pathogen sitting inside of the phagocyte. It's going to be surrounded
by a membrane. That membrane's called
a phagosome. And we learned there's
different types of phagocytes-- could be a
macrophage, could be a neutrophil, could be a dendritic
cell-- and we have it like this and then we also
saw in that video, it's not just done-- the macrophage
doesn't just digest this thing. That by itself is very useful. It got this bacteria
out of the way. If this was a virus, it got
that virus out of the way. But it does even
more than that. It takes that and then it lyses
it-- or it breaks it up. It doesn't have to actually
use-- well, it breaks it up. There's several ways it can do
it, but the bottom line is, it processes it. It'll break up the pathogen--
and we saw that first video on phagocytes that we'll actually
have a lysosome bond to it and dump all sorts of particles that
are going to break up and cut up this bacteria,
in this case, into its constituent molecules. And then some subset of the
leftovers, particular chains of the peptides-- and remember,
proteins are long chains of amino acids. Polypeptides are short chains. So you take short chains of
those and they're going to bond to special proteins. And this is essentially the
topic of this video. So let's say they bond to that
special protein, bond to that special protein. And then those proteins get
transported or get to the membrane or the outer surface
of the cell and they present themselves along with the
piece of the pathogen. So the end product after
phagocytozed this pathogen is that the phagocyte will look
something like this and it will have these antigen
presenting proteins, I guess we can call them, that had
bound to parts of that original pathogen. Let me do it right here. So it has a little bit of the
original pathogen on it that I drew in green right here. And these proteins right here,
these are called-- it's a fancy word and I talked about
it in the previous video-- these are called major
histocompatibility complexes, or MHC for short. And when we're talking about
phagocytes or macrophages or dendritic cells that are
particular cases of phagocytes, the major
histocompatibility complexes that they present after
they've digested this molecule-- this is
an MHC class II. Let me write this down. This is an MHC class
II protein. It might seem like I'm really
going into the minutiae of what these proteins are, but
we're going to see this is key for activating other parts of
the immune system, especially the cell mediated parts
of the immune system. So this was the case with a
macrophage or a dendrite. They engulf something, they chew
it all up, and then parts of the chewed up thing that they
ate, they attach to these MHC II proteins and these
MHC proteins go to the surface of the cell. The same thing-- or actually not
the quite the same thing-- a very similar thing happens
with B cells. So if we have a B cell--
that's a good color. B for blue. We know B stands for bursa, but
it could stand for bone marrow just as well. Let's say we have a B cell and
it's got its membrane bound antibody on it. Remember, it's very specific
to that B cells. So all of the membrane bound
antibodies, all 10,000 or so of them on this B cell, they
all expressed the same variable part. So this is a particular
B cell. So remember, this
was nonspecific. When we talked about
phagocytosis, these guys just say, you're a bacteria. You're a virus. I don't know what
kind you are. I'm just going to eat you up. You look shady. I'm going to eat you up. I don't know what type
you are or whether I've seen you before. When we're talking about B
cells, we're talking about the adaptive or the specific
immune system. And so these-- the variable ends
of these membrane bound antibodies are specific to
certain parts of certain pathogens, to certain
epitopes. Remember, epitopes were the
parts of certain pathogens that these specific chains can
recognize and bond to. So let's say that we're
dealing with a virus in this situation. And let's say the virus
just happens to bond to this B cell. Remember, there might be
other-- in fact, there definitely are tons of other
B cells around, but their variable portions are
all different. And that's what I always find
amazing about B cells is that they come from the same genetic
line, their genes have been shuffled around in their
development so that they can produce billions of combinations
of these proteins, or the variable ends
of their antibodies. So let's say we have
some virus. Let me say it's a bacteria. When I did the other B cell
example, I said we're dealing with viruses. But let's say some new bacteria
and just some part of its surface just happens to
bind to only this B cell-- because this B cell has just
the right combination. So some part of his surface
binds just to that B cell right there. That part of the surface that
binds, remember, that was called the epitope. That's that part of the pathogen
that binds to our variable sequencer. It won't bind to this B cell
or this B cell because they have different sequences here,
but it binds to this B cell and then that starts the
activation process. We'll go into-- sometimes this
by itself can get the B cell activated, but you normally
need help from helper T cells-- and we'll talk
more about that. And we said, once this
happens, once you get activated or the activation
process starts, this guy actually gets engulfed-- and I
didn't talk about that in the last video just because I didn't
want to go into too much detail. So this whole thing gets
engulfed by the B cell. And then when it gets activated,
it proliferates itself and you normally need
the T cells there and some part of them become plasma B
cells, some part of them become memory B cells. Remember, the plasma B cells
say, gee, I've been activated. I'm just going to produce a
ton of these antibodies. So the plasma B cell will just
produce tons of these antibodies and start spitting
them out so that they can attach to more and more of that
pathogen and just mess them up in different ways,
either tag them so that other macrophages or phagocytes eat
them up-- or tag two of them so you bundle them up so that
they can't operate properly. Whatever. I'm not going to go into
detail on that. That's when it gets activated. But the interesting thing is
that the B cell will also do what the phagocytes do. The B cell will also take
this guy into the cell. Maybe he's initially attached
to the antibody-- and break him up, take pieces of this
pathogen and attach it to MHC II proteins and then present
them on the surface. So a B cell will also
present the antigen. So this is also an MHC
II complex-- a major histocompatibility complex--
and just so you know, histo means tissue. So this is related to whether
something is compatible with the tissue in your body and
we'll talk more about that and how it relates to transplants
and all of that. So this is also an
MHC class II. In both cases, whether we're
talking about B cells that recognize a very specific
pathogen-- and it could be a specific virus, a specific
protein, a specific bacteria, or in the cases of phagocytes,
they'll just say, oh, you look shady. Let me take you in. I don't know what type of
bacteria or virus or protein you are, but in either case,
they both engulf them, take pieces of them, cut them up,
and present them on their surface in a complex
with the major histocompatibility complexes. So cells that do this are called
professional antigen presenting cells. This is what they do for a
living, although they do other things, as we've seen. The phagocytes eat things. The B cells generate antibodies
or memories so that they can later be activated to
generate antibodies, but these are called professional antigen
presenting cell. And the antigen in question is
this little piece of the actual thing that you're trying
to track, that little piece-- the actual part of the
pathogen, that's what the antigen-- so it's presenting
the antigen. It's professional because it
takes pathogens from in the fluid of our system and then
engulfs them, breaks them up, and then presents them. Now there are also
nonprofessional antigen presenting cells. And in fact, most
cells are this. In fact, even these guys. Actually, I'm going to wait
for the next video. I realize all of my videos
are getting long. So you're probably thinking,
these guys in either case engulf them, cut them
up, present them, what is it good for? You'll see these MHC II, these
are what are recognized by helper T cells. It'll all form part of the
puzzle of how our immune system works. So in the next video, I'll talk
about MHC I presenting cells, which is pretty
much all body cells.