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Diels-Alder: stereochemistry of diene
How to analyze the stereochemistry of the diene in a Diels-Alder reaction.
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- How to identify cis and trans in diene molecule?(6 votes)
- For Diene as a whole, you look to see if the two double bond groups are on the same side of the single bond (eclipsing each other). If you look, every carbon has three substituents, making them sp2 hybridized. The whole molecule is planar. Therefore, although there is free rotation along the single bond, there are only two configurations the molecule can have (labeled cis and trans).
As for inside the molecule (for one of the double bonds), it follows the same rule for every double bond. If both biggest (first atom having highest atomic number) are on the same side then its cis. Opposite sides is trans.(9 votes)
- You said the double bonds are cis () they look trans to me 3:40(5 votes)
- The H atoms are on the same side of each double bond.
Same side = cis.(5 votes)
- Fromto 1:15, the inside substituents (in the video hydrogen atoms) go up and the methyl groups go down. Can the opposite happen (methyl groups going up and the inside substituent going down)? It seems if we flip the product over (or look at the opposite side of the molecule), the opposite is also possible. 3:30(5 votes)
- At, why is it trans and not cis? 1:12
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Ester(5 votes)- The hydrogen atoms are on the opposite side of both double bonds, so both of them are trans.(3 votes)
- Why is it that the groups in the middle of the half-ring in the diene are the ones to point outwards (get wedges). Because it is planar, wouldn't it be possible for the double bond to attack in either direction ... or does that not even matter. What about this reaction forces the groups in the middle upwards and never downwards. I feel like it should be 50 - 50(5 votes)
- At, Does it mean that the bridge is now wedged and that the rest of the cyclohexane is dashed? or is it implied already since it is a bridge? 6:07(4 votes)
- why doesn't the stereochem matter for the dienophile?(2 votes)
- The dienophile here is an alkyne. It gives an alkene product.
The substituents are pointing straight out in the plane of the alkene.
There are no exo or endo isomers.(3 votes)
- why no enantiomer at? 3:29(2 votes)
- The carbon atoms in the adduct formed atare not chiral. 4:50(2 votes)
- at, when you drew the product, you started with a 5 carbon cyclo diene and then made a 6 carbon cyclo diene structure.... how were you able to add an additional C to the new product made? 4:38(2 votes)
- The 5-carbon ring is still there. It consists of atoms 1, 2, 3, and 4 of the cyclopentadiene plus the atom in the middle of the product.
The new 6-carbon ring consists of atoms 1, 2, 3, and 4 of the cyclopentadiene plus the alkyne carbons of the dimethyl butynedioate.(2 votes)
- The two final products have a horizontal plane of symmetry passing through the ring. Doesn't that cancel chirality and basically make them the same molecule and not enantiomers?(2 votes)
- the planar structure by a double bond is only applied to the carbons attatched directly to the bond
even though two sides of the ring have double bonds, this doesn't give the ring itself a full planar shape. cause there are two other carbons with no double bond
and the groups which give chirality are on that two carbons, making the two final products enantiomers than the same(1 vote)
Video transcript
- [Instructor] This
video we're gonna focus on the stereochemistry of the diene. On the left is our diene, on
the right is our dienophile. So first let's draw our product. This Diels-Alder reaction without worrying about stereochemistry. So we know that a Diels-Alder reaction, involves a concerted
movement of six pi electrons. So if these pi electrons move into here before a bond between these two carbons, these pi electrons move into here. We form a bond between these two carbons and then these pi
electrons would move down. So let's draw the product,
again ignoring stereochemistry for the time being. So let's put in, let's put in these bonds, we have these methyls right here. And then I'm going to
abbreviate these esters as CO2Me. So CO2Me down here. The reason that we chose
this alkyne as our dienophile is because we don't have to
worry about stereochemistry at these two carbons. We do need to worry about stereochemistry at these two carbons and
those came from our diene. So let's look in more detail
at the structure of the diene. So this is a trans-trans diene. So this double bond is
trans and so is this one. Let's focus in on this
inside substituents first so these two hydrogens and let's look at them in the picture. So those two hydrogens are on the inside and when we form a bond
between these two carbons and between these two carbons. Notice what happens to those hydrogens. On the left here those hydrogens are on sp2 hybridized carbon so
this carbon is sp2 hybridized and so is this one. But on the right, notice
how those two carbons are now sp3 hybridized. So those two hydrogens,
those inside substituents go up in our product. So if we're looking down
at our ring this way, those two hydrogens are
coming out at us in space. So let's go ahead and draw that. So we have our ring and we
put in our double bonds here, and we have our esters, let
me go ahead and put that in. So CO2Me and CO2Me and let's draw in those hydrogens
coming out at us in space. So those two carbons that I marked in red, those are these two carbons. So we should have a
hydrogen coming out at us at both of those carbons. So here's a hydrogen
coming out at us on a wedge and then here is a hydrogen
coming out at us on a wedge. All right next, let's look
at the outside substituents. So let me use blue for this. So our outside substituents are these two. So in blue, these are the outside. So we have two methyl
groups that are outside and I made the methyl groups
yellow in the model set here. So here are the two methyl groups and when these two carbons,
when these two carbons go from sp2 to sp3 hybridized
notice what happens to the methyl groups. If the inside substituents go up, the outside substituents go down. So these are a methyl groups
and they go down in space. So looking down at our ring both methyl groups will be
going away from us in space. So let's go ahead and
draw those in on a dash. So that methyl group is going away from us and so is this one. For this next problem we
have the same dienophile but we have a different diene. This is cyclopentadiene. You can see the double bonds are both cis. So when we think about
our Diels-Alder reaction, we move our six pi electrons. So these pi electrons move
in here to form a bond between these two carbons. These pi electrons move into here so we form a bond
between these two carbons and this pi electrons move over to here. So when we draw our products, we go ahead and draw in this ring here. And let's highlight
some of those electrons. So we're not done drawing
the product yet obviously. These electrons in red move into here and then we had electrons in blue so these pi electrons
in blue move into here. And then finally our
high electrons in magenta move over to here. And then, but we still have a bridging CH2 so this bridging CH2
we need to draw that in on our product. So let me just sketch that in. So this is actually a
top view of our product. Then we still have our esters, so CO2Me coming off of this carbon and CO2Me coming off of this carbon. So let me draw those in here. So this is one way to draw your product but if you wanna draw a little more three dimensional standpoint, let's look at the picture down here. So our bridging is CH2
would be this carbon. So we have these bonds right
here going to the bridging CH2 and those are these bonds. Those are inside substituents and we know inside substituents go up. So when we form our bonds, so we formed our bond in red over here so this one, that's the
bond between this carbon and this carbon. So we form a bond
between these two carbons which is this bond. And then we also formed
our bond in blue over here so that's the bond between
this carbon and this one. So we form a bond between these two and that's this bond right here. Those inside substituents, this bridging CH2 goes up in space. So if this goes up and we
can sketch in our product from a different point of
view so I'm gonna redraw what we see here in the picture. So this is a form of drawing
a product that you see a lot. So let me sketch this in,
so this takes some practice. All right and let's
draw in our double bonds and then we have our CO2Me and our CO2Me. So our bridging CH2 is right here so that went up in space. For our last problem we
have our same dienophile. But notice this time for
our diene we have cis at this double bond, but
this double bond is trans. So let's first move our six pi electrons. So this pi electrons move into here, so we form a bond between
these two carbons. These pi electrons move into here so we form a bond between
those two carbons. And these pi electrons move down. So let's draw, let's
start to draw our product so we have our ring and then we have two double bonds in our ring. Let's go ahead and put in our esters here. So we have CO2Me and then CO2Me. Next, let's think about our substituents. So look at the inside ones first. So we have this hydrogen
and this methyl group. And we go down here to the picture here is that hydrogen and
here is that methyl group. So when we form our bonds
between these two carbons and these two carbons are
inside substituents go up. So here is that hydrogen and
here is that methyl group so for staring down
this way at our product those two will be coming
out at us in space. So let's go ahead and put in those groups so the methyl group right
here is on this carbon and that's this one. So we have a methyl group
coming out at us in space at this carbon so let me draw that in. So we would have on a wedge CH3 so let me fill in that wedge. And then for our other carbon,
let me mark it right here so this carbon which is this one would have a hydrogen
coming out at us in space. So let me draw in that hydrogen coming out at us right here. Next let's think about
our outside substituents. So I'll make those in blue. So our outside substituents
are this hydrogen and this methyl group. So let's find those on our picture. So here is that hydrogen and
here is our methyl group. And we can see where they end up so this hydrogen goes down in space. So we need to put that on a dash, so let's draw in our hydrogen
on a dash at this carbon. So the outside substituents go down. And this methyl group right
here, this one goes right here. So it's down relative to the hydrogen so let's go ahead and put that in. So let's put in our methyl group, our CH3 down at this carbon. So what would happen if
you took your diene here and you looked at it from
a different perspective. So let's go to the video
so you see what I mean. So here's our diene with the yellow representing the methyl groups. And if I just rotate it this way, now we can see we have this methyl group on an inside substituent
and this methyl group would be an outside substituent. As we saw in the video this
is the same diene as before. It's the same as this one. It's just we viewed in
a different perspective. So we move our six pi electrons around. So we form a bond between
these two carbons, we move these pi electrons down and let's draw in our ring. So we have our ring, we have
two double bonds in the ring and then we have our
esters coming off so CO2Me and CO2Me. Next we think about
our inside substituents so we have a hyrdrogen and
we have our methyl group. The inside substituents go up so the hydrogen and the
methyl group are going to be on a wedge. So this hydrogen is on
a wedge at this carbon. So we put that in. And then this methyl group
is on a wedge at this carbon so filling that wedge here and write CH3. Next, we think about
our outside substituents so we have a methyl group and a hydrogen. Outside substituents go
down so we could draw in that methyl group is going
away from us in space so there's our CH3. And this hydrogen is also
going away from us in space so it's on a dash. So now we have this as our product. Before, when we looked
at our diene in this way, we got this as our product. What is the relationship
between this molecule and this molecule? They are enantiomers of each other. So really this reaction
would give us a pair of enantiomers.