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Course: Organic chemistry > Unit 5
Lesson 6: E1 and E2 reactions- E1 mechanism: kinetics and substrate
- E1 elimination: regioselectivity
- E1 mechanism: stereoselectivity
- E1 mechanism: carbocations and rearrangements
- E2 mechanism: kinetics and substrate
- E2 mechanism: regioselectivity
- E2 elimination: Stereoselectivity
- E2 elimination: Stereospecificity
- E2 elimination: Substituted cyclohexanes
- Regioselectivity, stereoselectivity, and stereospecificity
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E2 elimination: Substituted cyclohexanes
Examples of E2 elimination reactions involving substituted cyclohexanes. Created by Jay.
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- Although Jay points out only one beta Carbon at, actually there is another beta Carbon left to the alpha Carbon in the drawing, but since it doesn't matter which one to take, the other one is not mentioned, right? 01:28(5 votes)
- Yes, there is another beta carbon in the ring, and the methyl group is also a beta carbon. It does matter which one you choose. You could remove H atoms from any of these, but you would get a different product in each case (actually, you get a mixture of all three products). Jay just showed you the mechanism that gives the most stable, and therefore the major, product.(6 votes)
- In the menthly chloride example, why did he use the minor to draw from instead of the major?(6 votes)
- The leaving group needs to be axial in order for the reaction to occur. Since, the leaving group wasn't axial in the major conformation, the reaction couldn't have occurred in the major conformation.(4 votes)
- At, is the cyclohexene a "tri", because of the isopropyl group on the 1st carbon, is the third R-group? I'm not sure, is that right? 07:45(3 votes)
- Sean, you are correct. Angel's explanation was off the mark, however (or at least unclear). The double bond formed from the elimination reaction has three other "substituents" attached to it.
Any atom, molecule, or functional group (with the exception of hydrogen) is a "substituent." This would include the sides of a ring like this example. When Jay says "tri-substituted," he means there are three different "substituents" attached to the double bond. (1) carbon #3 and what it's attached to, (2) carbon #6 and what it's attached to, and (3) the isopropyl group.(6 votes)
- At, is the product from the reaction with the minor conformation of menthyl chloride. This means that the minor conformation is being used up to make the product. This puts stress on the equilibrium between the minor and major conformations, so that equilibrium should shift toward the left. Does this continue to the point where there is no longer any of the major conformation? 11:20(3 votes)
- Essentially, yes. This is an example of Le Châtelier's priinciple in action. As you remove one component in an equilibrium, the system responds in such a way as to relieve the stress by producing more of that component.(4 votes)
- Why does the Leaving Group needs to be in the axial position?(3 votes)
- I was also wondering about this and drew a Newman diagram for chlorocyclohexane with the Cl in an equitorial position. If you do this, the Cl is antiperiplanar to the ring (-CH2-). In other words, if the Cl is equitorial there cannot be a hydrogen in the antiperiplanar position and thus the E2 reaction cannot happen.
The diagrams halfway down this page may help (if you mentally replace the CH3 with Cl):
http://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2014/06/27/substituted-cyclohexanes-equatorial-vs-axial/(3 votes)
- at, jay said the leaving group should be axial. Why must it be axial? 9:21(3 votes)
- For the chlorine group to form anti peri-planer position with the hydrogen it must be in axial position.Also since in the equitorial position the co planerity is not achieved by the chlorine and the hydrogen atom.hence the axial position is required.(2 votes)
- why is it must for leaving group and proton to be axial....i mnean equotorial positions wont work?(3 votes)
- I was also wondering about this and drew a Newman diagram for chlorocyclohexane with the Cl in an equitorial position. If you do this, the Cl is antiperiplanar to the ring (-CH2-). In other words, if the Cl is equitorial there cannot be a hydrogen in the antiperiplanar position and thus the E2 reaction cannot happen.
The diagrams halfway down this page may help (if you mentally replace the CH3 with Cl):
http://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2014/06/27/substituted-cyclohexanes-equatorial-vs-axial/(2 votes)
- Can I safely assume that if the hydrogen of a beta carbon isn't in ant-coplaner the E reaction doesn't take place?(1 vote)
- E2 reactions can only occur if the halide and H are anti-periplanar (or nearly so) to each other. E1 reactions on the other hand do not have this specificity due to the 2-step mechanism (loss of leaving group then proton transfer). Note: There is a carbocation intermediate meaning rearrangements can occur.(5 votes)
- @is there a major product? I'd like to say the one on the right is the Major product. 9:47(3 votes)
- at, why does he say that because the iso-propyl group is axial can't participate in the mechanism? 9:52(2 votes)
- In order to get elimination of HCl, the Cl onC2 and the β H must be in a trans diaxial conformation. If the Cl is axial, the isopropyl group on C1 is also axial and the β H on C1 is equatorial. There is no axial H on C1, because the isopropyl group has replaced it. The axial β H must therefore come from C3.(2 votes)
Video transcript
- [Instructor] We're doing E two mechanism for a substituted cyclohexane. The key is to think about
your chair conformations. For example, let's look at
this substituted cyclohexane on the left here, and let's
first try to solve this problem without looking at a chair conformation. So I would start by saying my chlorine is attached to my alpha carbon, and the carbons directly
bonded to the alpha carbon would be the beta carbons, so there's a beta carbon on the right, which I call beta one, there's a beta carbon on the left which I will call beta two. I know that sodium methoxide
will be my strong base. The ethoxide anion will take a proton from one of those beta carbons and a double bond would form
between the alpha carbon and one of those beta carbons, and the chlorine would
leave as the chloride anion, so a double bond forms between the alpha and the beta one carbon, so I'll draw in a double bond here, and the chlorine is now gone, but I would still have this methyl group going away from us in space, so CH3, so that's one possible product, and you might think oh I
might also form a double bond between the alpha and the beta two carbon, so let me draw a double bond in here, and so my methyl group would just be on a straight line this time, and so you might think that
could be one of the products, but when you actually think
about chair conformations, you'll realize that you would
not realize this product, so this product is not observed, so you would only get this one, and let's look at why. So first, we need to number
our cyclohexane ring, and remember, when you
number a cyclohexane ring for a chair conformation, you're not necessarily
doing IUPAC nomenclature. You're just using
whatever numbers you need to help you draw a proper
chair conformation, so I'm going to start with
the chlorine being number one, then I'm going to go around to the right, so two, three, carbon four, carbon five, and carbon six, so we're not naming this. We're just trying to get
a chair conformation, so on my chair conformation down here, I always say this is carbon one, and so I need to have the chlorine, the chlorine up at carbon one, and so I only have one choice. The chlorine has to be up axial, and so if I go around to carbon six, so this would be carbon one here, two, three, four, five, and six, I have a methyl group going
away from me in space, so this would be going down, so I'm gonna draw in a Me for
a methyl group right here, so it's down axial. So now let's draw in some hydrogens on our beta carbons, so let me highlight our beta carbons here. I'll use red, so this would be, what I've marked is being beta one, so I have two hydrogens on that carbon, so I'll draw those in here, and then my other beta carbon which I called beta two up here, so I only have, so this is beta two, I have only one hydrogen, and it is equatorial. So let's go to a video, so we can analyze which one of these
protons will participate in our E two mechanism. Here's our chair conformation, and you can see at the alpha carbon, we have the yellow chlorine up and axial. When we go to the beta one carbon, the hydrogen in green is the only one that's anti-periplanar to the halogen. If I turn to the side here, it's easier to see that we
have all four of those atoms in the same plane, so the green proton is anti-periplanar to the chlorine. The other hydrogen, the one in white, is not anti-periplanar, so it will not participate in our E two mechanism. We go to the beta two carbon, and this hydrogen in white
is not anti-periplanar, and when we look at the
down axial position, it's occupied by a methyl group, so that is where a
hydrogen would need to be if it were to participate
in an E two mechanism. For E two elimination in cyclohexanes, the halogen must be axial,
so here is our halogen that's axial, and when
the halogen is axial in this chair conformation, the only hydrogen that's anti-periplanar is this one in green
as we saw in the video, so if a strong base comes along, and takes the proton in green, the electrons in here would move in to form our double bond,
and these electrons come off onto the chlorine, so a double bond forms between the alpha and the beta one carbons, which would give us this
as our only product, so we don't get a double bond forming between our alpha and our beta two carbon because we would need to have a hydrogen where our methyl group is, so this, if we did have a hydrogen here, this hydrogen would be
anti-periplanar to our halogen, but in this case, we get only one product, so this is the only product observed, and we figured that out because we drew our chair conformation. Let's do another E two mechanism for a substituted cyclohexane, and I'll start by
numbering my cyclohexane, so that's carbon one,
and this is carbon two, this is carbon three,
and this is carbon four. Again, the numbering is
not for nomenclature. It's just to help me out
with my chair conformation, so if I call this carbon one, I need a methyl group going up, which means the methyl
group must be up axial. At carbon three, I need a
chlorine that's going down, so this would be carbon two, this would be carbon three, which means the chlorine
is down equatorial. Then at carbon four, I
have this isopropyl group going down, so this would be carbon four, and going down means the isopropyl group is down axial. For an E two elimination in cyclohexanes, the halogen needs to be axial, but here, the halogen is equatorial, so next, we need to
think about a ring flip, so on the right would be our
other chair conformation, and this is carbon one, so
if I have my methyl group up axial for the chair
conformation on the left, it must be up equatorial
for the chair conformation on the right, and this
would be carbon two, and this would be carbon three. I need a chlorine that's down, so on the left, the
chlorine is down equatorial. On the right for this chair conformation, it would be down axial, and then at carbon four, I need to put an isopropyl
group going down. On the left, the isopropyl
group was down axial. On the right, it will be down equatorial, so the chlorine is now axial, and so this is my alpha carbon right here, and so I can look for beta carbons, so the carbons next door
to the alpha carbon, so here's a beta carbon, which
I'll mark as being beta one, and then here's a beta carbon, which I'll mark as being beta two. So let's look for hydrogens
that are anti-periplanar on those beta carbons. So here's a hydrogen on beta
one that's anti-periplanar, and then on beta two, here's a hydrogen that is anti-periplanar. So those are the protons that will be lost in our mechanism, but
before we draw the products, let's think about which
one of these conformations is more stable, so we
saw in earlier videos that you want to put the
bulky groups equatorial out to the side, so the bulkiest group is this isopropyl group right here, and it's more stable when
it's out to the side. When this isopropyl group is axial, there's a lot of interaction
with other groups on the ring, so the
conformation on the right is the more stable conformation, and let's take a look at that in a video. At carbon one, I have a methyl group that's up axial. This is carbon two, and
this is carbon three with my chlorine down equatorial. At carbon four, I have my
isopropyl group down axial, but you can see all of
the steric hindrance, so that destabilizes this conformation. This is the less stable conformation, so we do a ring flip, and it's hard to do with this model set, but
I'm going to approximate the other chair conformation, so at carbon one, the methyl group is now up equatorial. At carbon three, the
halogen is down axial, and at carbon four, the
bulky isopropyl group is equatorial and out to the side, so the carbon bonded to the
halogen's my alpha carbon, and next to that would be a beta carbon, and this beta hydrogen is
anti-periplanar to this halogen. We have another beta carbon over here with another hydrogen
that's anti-periplanar to this halogen. Finally, let's draw our two products, so let's take a proton from
the beta one position first, so our base, let me draw it in here, so our strong base is
going to take this proton, and so these electrons
would move into here to form our double bond, and these electrons come onto the chlorine to form the chloride anion
as our leaving group. So this would form a double bond between what I called
carbons two and three 'cause this is carbon
one, this is carbon two, this is carbon three,
and this is carbon four, so we have a methyl group
that's up at carbon one, so let me draw in our methyl group up at carbon one, so
we put that on a wedge, so if that's carbon one,
then this is carbon two, and this is carbon three, and that's where our double bond forms, so the double bond forms
between carbons two and three, and at carbon four, we have
this isopropyl group going down, so let me go ahead and put that in, going away from us, we put that on a dash, so that's one product. If our base took this proton, then the electrons would move into here, and these electrons would
come off onto the chlorine, so if we took a proton
from the beta two carbon, we would form a double bond
between carbons three and four, so here's carbons three and four, so I put a double bond in there. I still have a methyl
group that's going up at what I called carbon one, and my isopropyl group is at carbon four, but since now, this carbon
is sp two hybridized, I need to draw in this isopropyl group on a straight line, so sometimes, students would put this isopropyl group in on a wedge or a dash, but you're trying to
show the planar geometry around this carbon, so a
straight line is what you need, and so those are the two products. Let's do one more, and
you can see this substrate is very similar to the one we did in the previous example. The only difference is this time, the chlorine is on a
wedge instead of a dash, so if I number my ring
one, two, three, four, I've already put in both chair
conformations to save time, so that's carbon one, this is carbon two, this is carbon three,
and this is carbon four. On the other chair conformation, this is carbon one, two, three, and four, and notice for the chair
conformation on the left, we have the chlorine
in the axial position, so this would be the alpha carbon, and the carbons next to the alpha carbon would be the beta carbons, so this one on the right is a beta carbon, and the one on the left is a beta carbon. We need a proton that's anti-periplanar, and the only one that fits would be this hydrogen right here, so if a base takes that proton, so let me draw in our strong base, taking this proton, these
electrons would move into here to form our double bond, the electrons come off onto our chlorine, and a double bond forms
between carbons two and three, so when we draw our product, let me put the ring in here, carbon one has a methyl group that's up, so let me draw in our CH3, which is up, the double bond formed
between carbons two and three, so this is carbon one, this is carbon two, this is carbon three, we
draw in our double bond here, and then we have our
isopropyl group going down at carbon four, so let me
draw in our isopropyl group going down, and this is the
only product for the reaction. We don't have any other protons that are anti-periplanar to our chlorine. When we think about our
two chair conformations, the one on the left has
all of our groups axial, and the one on the right has
all of our groups equatorial, so the one on the right is
actually much more stable, so this is more stable with
all of the bulky groups out to the side, which means that this is a relatively slow reaction. The reaction is slow
because the equilibrium favors the conformation that has the bulky groups equatorial, but that's not the conformation that has the requirements
for our E two mechanism, so it's the less stable conformation that has the anti-periplanar
hydrogen and chlorine, so this reaction is much slower than the one that we just talked about. Let's go back up here so we can compare. Let's look at this reaction. So for this reaction, the
more stable conformation is the one with our
bulky groups equatorial, so the equilibrium
favors this conformation, and this conformation is also the one that had our hydrogens
anti-periplanar to our halogen, so this reaction is much faster.