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Lesson 4: Influenza- What is the flu?
- Catching and spreading the flu
- When flu viruses attack!
- Three types of flu
- Naming the flu: H-something, N-something
- Testing for the flu
- Antiviral drugs for the flu
- Genetic shift in flu
- Flu vaccine efficacy
- Flu shift and drift
- Two flu vaccines (TIV and LAIV)
- Flu vaccine risks and benefits
- Making flu vaccine each year
- 5 common flu vaccine excuses
- Vaccines and the autism myth - part 1
- Vaccines and the autism myth - part 2
- Flu surveillance
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Flu vaccine efficacy
Find out just how useful the flu vaccine actually is at preventing the flu! Rishi is a pediatric infectious disease physician and works at Khan Academy.
These videos do not provide medical advice and are for informational purposes only. The videos are not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. Always seek the advice of a qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition. Never disregard professional medical advice or delay in seeking it because of something you have read or seen in any Khan Academy video. Created by Rishi Desai.
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- What about publication bias in these numbers as there is a pharma incentive to publish only he positive result data(6 votes)
- Furthermore, more than half of the studies investigating flu vaccine efficacy are funded by the companies that profit most from their dissemination. They should've really drawn their conclusions from a larger body of evidence such as a meta analysis. It's unscientific to use one study to back up your claims, especially in the medical field. The meta analysis performed by the Cochrane Collaboration found that the flu vaccine is much less effective than this one study found. In fact, for every 100 healthy adults vaccinated, only 1 person avoids flu symptoms. I'd disagree with these claims and say that washing hands, staying hydrated, eating right, and getting enough sleep are far more important factors than a vaccination, which the evidence shows is sadly not that effective.(4 votes)
- please give reference for this study. Have not seen a study where the placebo group received saline injection. THis study is not visible on pubmed.(3 votes)
- The study(ies) can be found on every single influenza vaccine package insert.(3 votes)
- How effective are hand sanitizers (like hand gel) for protecting against the flu?(2 votes)
- Several studies suggest that the flu-virus is unstable if not in a hosts lung, other studies have shown that it can last eight hours up to several days on (environmental) surfaces, but only minutes on your hand. Sanitizer is therefor redudant.(5 votes)
- how do doctors know what flu virus is going to be the strain for that following year?(1 vote)
- Researchers (not your doctor) study the way the influenza virus has changed in the past and try to predict what the characteristics of next virus strains might be. I'm sure you can imagine how difficult this job is. The new vaccine is based on this information. When someone is exposed to an influenza virus strain that is different to what the scientist have predicted and therefore vaccinated against that person gets the flu (hence the 3/100 people that are immunised getting the flu).(5 votes)
- Am I the only one that thought the shield concept was weak? Felt like a preschool education that's suppose to be designed for advanced learners. Also, this implies that anyone that takes the vaccine can get sick if exposed to the flu enough times that a germ finally finds a whole in the shield. I'm ignorant of the subject but my understanding is that if the vaccine works for you, it works period, no holes in a shield?(1 vote)
- This is an issue that arises when you try to apply probability to a single event.
What 60-70% efficacy means is that for every vaccinated 100 people that are properly exposed, 30-40 of them will still contract the flu... or become symptomatic.
However, once one has an immunity, either through fighting off the flu unassisted by a vaccine, or by vaccine assisted immunity, then subsequent exposures to the same strain will not cause the flu. (This is incomplete, as some vaccinations need to be boosted because the immune system has an imperfect memory of a particular strain over time.)
So, essentially if the vaccine works for you, then it works one hundred percent. So, yes... the shield analogy is not very good for an individual... but it works if you think of the shield as protecting many people at the same time.(3 votes)
- Will you also address this similar study out of Hong Kong where they found the same flu results but also found that the vaccinated group was much more likely to get sick with other respiratory infections. http://healthimpactnews.com/2013/study-flu-vaccine-causes-5-5-times-more-respiratory-infections-a-true-vaccinated-vs-unvaccinated-study/
Is there evidence that injecting one dead virus can interfere with the body's immune response to other viruses?(2 votes) - Technically viruses are not alive to begin with. So I'm confused about putting a 'dead' virus in the injection. What is that all about?(2 votes)
- In this context, "dead" means the virus is damaged such that it cannot do what normal intact viruses do: enter our cells, take over the cellular machinery to create new copies of themselves, then kill the cell and spill the newly-made virus particles out of the cell to infect new cells.(1 vote)
- This video ignores the healthy user effect, and the low quality of studies backing the effectiveness of the seasonal influenza vaccine.
- Cochrane Review - Vaccines for preventing influenza in healthy adults
http://summaries.cochrane.org/CD001269/vaccines-to-prevent-influenza-in-healthy-adults-
- Dr Lisa Jackson's out of season influenza vaccine research
http://ije.oxfordjournals.org/content/35/2/337.short
I am not anti-vax. Both I and my family have been vaccinated for some things but not the seasonal influenza vaccine. The risk reward ratio is way against this one.
For instance you didn't look at vitamin D3. It is as effective and has none of the bad side effects.(2 votes) - Wouldn't wearing a physical barrier, like those facemasks I saw on the news a few years ago because of SARS, also be a good form of prevention?(0 votes)
- We have to stop ignoring basic epidemiology here. Viral illnesses are spread through contact. No contact, no spread. Coughing and sneezing release droplets into the environment, permitting opportunity for contact with other individuals. The video needs to be wound back toand add 5) COVER THE MOUTH/NOSE of the sick person. Which means using a mask to stop droplets (which are MUCH larger than viruses). THIS is the single most effective mechanism for preventing spread of the cold/flu. Vaccines are second line defense AT BEST because of their variable efficacy. The 2012 vaccine was reported to be at most 40% effective in retrospect. This is all only part of the story because we only are presented a representative 3/100 people who were confirmed positive AFTER receiving the flu vaccine, but how many had symptoms? And the presence of symptoms is what people use to make decisions on whether to receive treatment. The author of the video needs to "stop towing the party line and touting how wonderfully effective the vaccine is", thereby adding fuel to the argument to have certain segments of society forced to receive a vaccine for which a waiver of liability must be signed first in order to get it. 2:17(1 vote)
- How do they kill viruses without damaging the proteins for vaccines?(2 votes)
- Great question. There are certain treatments that are damaging to genetic material but not to protein. An example of this is ultraviolet radiation. As long as you can damage or attenuate the viral genetic material, it is no longer infectious.(1 vote)
Video transcript
So let's say you're
walking down the street and you see this person,
this green, sickly person. And this person is
coughing and sneezing, and you feel really
bad for them right? Because they look awful. They just must
feel awful as well. And the thought that
goes through your mind is, how do you avoid
getting sick as well? Because of course,
you don't want to feel this way either, right? And so you want to think
about all the things that you can do to make
sure you don't get sick from this person. And so what are
some of those things that you might be able to do
to try to avoid getting sick? Well let's think through it. How are you interacting
with your environment? What's the only real way
in which you interact? Well, it's when you
touch things, right? You usually have your feet
and your body covered up, but your hands are
always exposed, and they're always
touching things. And then you usually
turn around and touch your mouth, your
eyes, or your face. So two real quick
things that you can do to try to
prevent getting sick are simply making sure
that you wash your hands. And that's why you
always hear that message, wash your hands after going to
the bathroom, before you eat. And that's the reason why. And the other key message
is, don't touch your face. Right? You want to make sure
you avoid your mouth, your eyes, your nose. Because that's where the
viruses get into your body. So don't touch your face. So these are two really
good ideas, right? But what are some others? What else can you do? Well, you can try--
and this isn't always possible-- you can try to
avoid the person altogether. You could try to just
move away, right? You could say, well, let's
make some distance over here. So you're further
away from this person. And that's another
possible strategy. And like I said, it
doesn't always work. But when you can avoid someone,
that's always a good idea. So avoid sick people. And finally-- and
this one is going to be the main point
of this video-- is you can actually get vaccinated. You can get a vaccine
that will actually prevent you from getting ill. So flu vaccine is something
that a lot of people have strong feelings about. And the first thing
I want to point out is, on this list of
prevention it's probably the most important. It's probably the
most effective way of preventing getting
sick from the flu. So certainly think about it. But if you're going
to think about it, and you want to think
critically about doing something like this, you want to make
sure it's a good idea, right? Do we really have any evidence
that it really does help? Or is it the opposite? Does the flu vaccine
actually make you more sick? Does It gives you the flu? So let's talk about that. Let's think through
how the vaccine works and what we know about it. So there's some research that's
been done on flu vaccine. I'm going to present you with
what we've learned so far. So a group out of University
of Michigan actually came along and they said, well,
let's figure out the answer to whether
vaccine is a good idea. And let's actually take--
let's start over here on the left side--
let's take an injection and fill it with salt water. So this is regular
old salt water, or something very similar to it. And it has no real
effect at all. In fact, sometimes
people call this placebo. And I'll actually write
that over here-- placebo. So that's one side. And on the other
side, let's actually come up with a vaccine. And this vaccine I'm
going to draw out, it looks basically the same. It's actually also an injection. And this injection is
full of dead virus. So they literally take
live virus-- remember live virus has kind
of an envelope, and it has RNA on the inside. I'm going to sketch that out. And what they do
is they actually have different
ways of killing it. They literally just
destroy this thing. And just like human beings,
you know, if you're killed, you cannot come back to life. And a virus is the same way. Once a virus is dead,
it is dead forever. And so this dead virus is
lying here on its side, completely and
utterly dead, right? And this dead virus,
then they take it and they put it
into the vaccine. So this is what
is in the vaccine. This is our flu vaccine. Let me label it over here. Flu vaccine. So two groups of
people then, are going to get two different
types of injections. And they actually had
hundreds and hundreds of people involved
in this study, but I'm just going to show
you a representative slice. So let's say this is
100 people over here. And that's a grid, so each
square represents one person. And there is 100
people over here. And these people, they
don't know which vaccine they're going to get. They don't know if
they're going to get the salt water or
the flu vaccine. They're what we call
blinded in this study. And I should also tell you that
these people are very healthy, and they are young adults. So they're between
18 and 49 years old. They're healthy. And the two groups are
fairly similar in terms of the number of men and women
in each group and their age breakdowns in the two sides. They're fairly similar. So these two groups get
the salt water or the flu, and they don't know
which is which. And they're told over
the course of six months, over the course
of the flu season, to keep track of illnesses. And if they get flu, I'm going
to sketch them out in red. What they actually did is they
said, hey, if you get the flu, let us know and
we'll confirm it. We'll actually do a
lab test to make sure that it really is the
flu and that it's not just some other illness
that you think you have. So they actually
took all these people that said they had
the flu-- and I'm only going to draw them in red if
they were confirmed by PCR. That was the lab
technique they used. So these were called
PCR confirmed. So that's laboratory-confirmed
illness with flu. So these are people with
PCR-confirmed illness. And there were, you
can count them out. Out of 100 people in the first
group, in the salt water group, we had a total of
10 individuals. So about 10% of these folks were
ill with the flu over the flu season. And on the flu
vaccine side, we also had some people
sick with the flu. So that's actually
the first thing you should know is that the flu
vaccine does not prevent you 100% from getting the flu. But look at how many
people I shaded in. In the placebo side I said
there were 10 out of 100 people that got sick. And on the flu vaccine side
only about 3 out of 100 people got sick. And both-- actually
I should put arrows on both sides-- both
were PCR confirmed. So what does this mean? How do we take this and
make some sense out of it? Well, there's a term
called "vaccine efficacy." And what it kind
of refers to is, how good is the vaccine
at preventing you from getting sick? So this is the term
"vaccine efficacy," and sometimes you might
even see the term "VE." Sometimes people use "VE"
for vaccine efficacy. And the way you
calculate it, you say VE equals the proportion
of people that got sick with the salt water-- so
that was 10 out of 100-- minus the proportion that got
sick with the flu vaccine. So minus 3 out of 100. And you divide by the group
that did not get vaccine. And so you can take this
and you could simplify it. You could say, well,
this is basically 7 over 100 divided
by 10 over 100. And you could make it
even simpler by canceling the 100s out, and you say,
well, this is just 7/10. And to make a percent of it,
you multiply 7/10 by 100%. So if I was to describe the
VE, or the vaccine efficacy, based on this
study, I would say, well, flu has a 70%
vaccine efficacy. So you see how we
got that number. It's fairly simple, right? Just comparing the two
groups to each other. And there have been
many studies on flu. And the CDC actually
took all this data and they said, well, in
general, the VE, or the vaccine efficacy, for the flu vaccine
is usually between 60 and 70%. That's kind of the
number that they usually quote for this vaccine. So let's now take
that number, 60 to 70% VE-- I'm going to
write that down here, so we don't lose track
of what that is-- and let's take that back up
here to our little example. We said that there are a few
ways to try to prevent the flu. And if I imagine
now that there's a force field around
me-- let's say there's a little purple
force field around me-- and this force field
protects me from germs. I'm going to show germs
coming in and bouncing off my force field. Well, this would
be really accurate if I was describing
100% vaccine efficacy. Meaning if I get
the vaccine, I'm completely unable to get sick. But we know that's not true. We know that it's actually
closer to 60 to 70%. So for 60 to 70%,
let me show you what you can change this
picture to look like. Instead of making it
completely impenetrable, you can just draw
a few holes in it. So a few holes there, maybe be a
hole there, and maybe be a hole down here. So now you can show
a few of the germs breaking through and
getting in, right? Maybe getting in over here. But many of them actually
still bounce off. And so you're still protected
by a lot of the germs, but some of them can
still get you sick. So probably the best way
to avoid getting sick then, is to get your
vaccine, but still make sure you wash your
hands, don't touch your face, and avoid sick people.